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  • Triode fixed bias vs cathode bias diferences

    Hello. I have the weird ideea to bias my drivers (ecc99) in the grid with negative voltage provided by same negative supply for power tubes. Should I expect any diferences in respect with cathode bias with more common bypassed cathode resistor please ? Thanks.
    "If it measures good and sounds bad, it is bad. If it measures bad and sounds good, you are measuring the wrong things."

  • #2
    I'll start thinking when I'm seeing a circuit.

    Generally I like auto-bias because
    1) it stabilizes operating conditions against tube variations (including aging),
    2) it provides excellent power supply ripple rejection.

    A fixed bias voltage would need to be extremely well filtered.
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    • #3
      Thanks.Dirty sketch of actual circuit. I may remove cathodes resistors and insert the bottom of grid resistors directly into -8v negative supply instead of ground please. With cathodes tied directly to ground, of course.

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      • #4
        Ok, so a paraphase without global NFB.

        With fixed bias it might be necessary to individually adjust bias for each triode.
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        • #5
          And one more question regard the proper wiring of negative supply circuit. May I use both versions without the risk to get into a ground loop please ? Thanks.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by catalin gramada View Post
            And one more question regard the proper wiring of negative supply circuit. May I use both versions without the risk to get into a ground loop please ? Thanks.

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            While I don't see a ground loop, the problem with the upper wiring is that any noise between the 2 grounding points will be amplified like a signal.
            So I prefer the lower one.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
              Ok, so a paraphase without global NFB.

              With fixed bias it might be necessary to individually adjust bias for each triode.
              I just wondering why should the bias be individual adjustable ? Even the triodes are not balanced the second one is tailored for gain 1 by feedback resistor.
              "If it measures good and sounds bad, it is bad. If it measures bad and sounds good, you are measuring the wrong things."

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              • #8
                As fixed bias is not self-adjusting, applying the same bias voltage to both triodes might result in somewhat different tube currents.
                Result would be lowered headroom.
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