Crate slm straight half stack cabinet with discrepancies.

[crazycarl111]

I bought a "Crate" 4, 12" speaker cab at a yard sale and when I took it home I noticed that it has "Peavey" handles. I thought that I got burned and checked the back and the inside and all other details and it truly is a Crate cab. I thought that someone must have replaced the handles for some reason, but when I went to take them off, I could tell that they were stock and had never been replaced. It is not a Peavey Cab. Why would there be Peavey handles on a Crate Cab?

[J M Fahey]

I bet Columbo or Monk would find the truth.

[Steve Conner]

Burned?! If I thought I was buying a Crate cab and found out I had a Peavey, I'd be delighted!

[Enzo]

SInce a lot of those handles come from the same sources, they fit in several brands. How could you tell they were original? Someone could have easily bolted PV handles into Crate cups.

[soundguruman]

"Why would there be Peavey handles on a Crate Cab?"
Dude, you lucked out.
Because Crate handles are made out of recycled garden hose? They break, like all crate products, bank on it.
You should go back and pay extra, for PV hardware.
The handles are a standard size, so PV fits right in the same spot.
The hardware on PV is actually pretty good.

[J M Fahey]

What a bunch of crap.
Both Crate and Peavey (and a thousand others) buy handles (and tons of other stuff) from the same few "big" suppliers.
Specially the old stuff, when both were USA made.

[soundguruman]

What a bunch of crap.
Both Crate and Peavey (and a thousand others) buy handles (and tons of other stuff) from the same few "big" suppliers.
Specially the old stuff, when both were USA made.

Personally, I think Crate hardware is made out of recycled turds.

[J M Fahey]

Yiu can have any *personal* opinion on *anything*, just don't try to pass it like Revealed Truth to others
Or you can *try*, of course.

[Enzo]

SGM, if you have knowledge of honest to god REAL engineering problems at Crate, you could share them with us. But to just make up stuff like this, you just sound like a school kid yelling names on the playground. It destroys any credibility you might have.

[soundguruman]

SGM, if you have knowledge of honest to god REAL engineering problems at Crate, you could share them with us. But to just make up stuff like this, you just sound like a school kid yelling names on the playground. It destroys any credibility you might have.

Crate amps are not made to last. They break and fail with unbelievable predictability.
That's the honest to god problem.
If they want people to say good things about their product...
then build a better product.
If I am the only one brave enough to say it, then so be it.

I am absolutely nauseated, by the manufacturers who have flooded our markets with cheesy unreliable products.
They have destroyed our jobs, and our American amplifier manufacturing industry.
You can take it laying down, and pretend like it doesn't matter. You can sell out to them...(I take it you have already...)
But I am mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore.

[Enzo]

It takes no bravery to just make nothing but blanket statements that absolutely everything about Crate products is inferior, even the parts that are also used by other brands. That is simply juvenile ranting.

[DrGonz78]

Not really making any statement here but thought the award was cute.

[Steve Conner]

I think SGM's posts are made of recycled turds.

[JJTj]

Oh come on folks...

Fact is, both PV and SLM do NOT make said handles, and since they buy
enough, they can get their name on them. If ya can't get a 'crate' branded
part, a PV will do..it's the same part. We're talking about a flocking HANDLE
here folks, not a custom wound tranz. In the old days in the UK, Adam Hall
made/sold all those nice silver grip metal handles everyone used, that
are now plastic. You can find those same 'pvcrate' handles on many other
brands, and they fit right on. BTW, yes, Crate quality is NOT the best,
but far better then say, B-52. Yet I put PV quality above SLM anyday.

And I've been a warranty station for SLM, so I have a clue, and having been
Senior Tech for the R&D dept at PV in MS. in the 90's, let me tell ya, PV cares
alot more about what goes out the door then what SLM did at the time..or now.


JJTj

[soundguruman]

Oh come on folks...

Fact is, both PV and SLM do NOT make said handles, and since they buy
enough, they can get their name on them. If ya can't get a 'crate' branded
part, a PV will do..it's the same part. We're talking about a flocking HANDLE
here folks, not a custom wound tranz. In the old days in the UK, Adam Hall
made/sold all those nice silver grip metal handles everyone used, that
are now plastic. You can find those same 'pvcrate' handles on many other
brands, and they fit right on. BTW, yes, Crate quality is NOT the best,
but far better then say, B-52. Yet I put PV quality above SLM anyday.

And I've been a warranty station for SLM, so I have a clue, and having been
Senior Tech for the R&D dept at PV in MS. in the 90's, let me tell ya, PV cares
alot more about what goes out the door then what SLM did at the time..or now.


JJTj

Peavey & Fender have been 100% supportive with schematics and parts.
That why I tell ANYBODY who is shopping to buy their products.

However that is more than I can say for the factory that cranks out imitation Ampegs....
From what I hear, there is a huge factory, where "all" the guitar amps flooding our markets are made...
and they have 5 different name brands, even though they are all made in the same place, with the same parts, by the same people.
AND you "KNOW" which brands I am talking about.
They have to affix the "old trusted" name brands to the products. (Ampeg, Kustom, etc...)
Even though the products do not even remotely resemble the REAL namebrand product, ether in design, reliability, OR support.

KNOW the difference between a REAL SVT and a transistor SVT...is all I can say.
REAL AMPEGS: THEY USED TO DROP THE AMPS OFF BUILDINGS, and deliberately TORTURE the cabinets, to find ANY possible way to improve the design.
Those days are GONE folks.