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  • Strat 500 weak distorted channel B

    Hi guys, semi noob here (well maybe super noob whatever)

    Have a strategy 500 power amp. Channel B is weak / distorted / almost no bass. Here is what I checked so far:
    -Track 2 or track 1 functions the same and they switch ok
    -Switched all power and preamp tubes from CH1 to Ch2, didnt change any symptom at all.
    -Checked and double checked all speaker connections and tried the 4 ohm and 8 ohm taps with diff speakers/cables
    Preamp:
    -Checked preamp Plate voltages (all high 200's VDC)
    -Checked preamp cathode voltages (all ~1-3VDC)
    -Checked coupling caps (grids on all preamp tubes 0VDC while pre-cap it is high 200's from plate)
    -visually looked for cold solder etc.. didn't see anything
    Power amp:
    -checked bias supply for push/pull/cha/chb all around -54VDC
    -all plate volts high DC

    And finally last night i busted out the oscilloscope and was comparing waveforms on the preamp grids. I found that pin 2 of tube 1 on the channel B has a super distorted / wanky waveform whereas channel A on that preamp tube pin has a sine wave (200HZ input.)
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    I am leaning towards removing the tubes and checking this again to see if the measurements are affected. Also It appears that the feedback loop is connected to this pin so I am slightly skeptical of that area of the circuit. All I got is a strategy 400 schematic which seems to be accurate in that area around the preamp tubes at least.

    Any troubleshooting tips from some pros?
    Strategy 400 Prelim Schematic.pdf

  • #2
    That strange looking waveform you point out is inside the feedback loop, and represents the loops attempt to correct the distortion. I see there's a funny lookin' thing on the cathodes of the pre and fb triodes, expect that's a constant current source between ground & pins 8&3. If everything else checks out, I'm suspecting that as the source of your problem. Maybe swap CCS's from one chan to the other & see if the problem follows.
    This isn't the future I signed up for.

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    • #3
      Leo,

      That thing turned out to be a J508 current regulating diode. I switched them as you so aptly suggested. Same problem stayed on channel B.

      Then I tracked down the feedback from the output transformer and disconnected it (on CHB.) Within 5 minutes of doing this and leaving it disconnected, CHB started to work great again after a few pops and sputters. hmm.

      So I reconnected the feedback loop, reassembled, and am playing music through it now. I think I hear a *very slight* amount of hiss on channel A that was not there before i switched the CCS. So faint it is a hunch really. Anyways this is very strange to me but nevertheless I ordered some NOS J508's on ebay and am going to switch these out when they arrive. I wouldn't be surprised if that's all she wrote, and I also wouldn't be surprised if it starts acting funny again. Thanks again buddy for the sharp shooting! here's some pics for the curious!

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      • #4
        For the curious, the J508 current regulating diode is like a FET with gate shorted to source:
        J508 | Vishay J508 Constant Current Diode, | Vishay
        Originally posted by Enzo
        I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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