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  • Sun Beta Lead - resistor burned out - other issues

    Howdy,

    I have a Sunn Beta Lead (head only no speakers with it). It's been sitting in my neighbors garage for years and he said I could have it if I shoveled his snowy driveway. Sweet deal! The amp doesn't work. When I moved it, I could hear something moving around inside. I opened it and found a resistor floating around. You can tell it created a lot of heat because there were burn marks under it and it melted out the solder (the legs didn't break). My issue seems somewhat related to the Drummer4gc post: https://music-electronics-forum.com/...lation-circuit

    I am used to building pedals and guitars but not amps. I made sure all caps were drained and started checking pieces with my multimeter. The resistor that fell out was still good, I raised it off the board with some 14g copper wire (used for wall outlets) - someone on another forum said I should to reduce heat against the board.

    I don't know what to check anymore. Nothing looks wrong, but when I fixed the resistor and plugged it into my speaker cab, it gave me a load pop and buzzing sound like nothing was coming through. What should I check next? Any ideas? Thanks!

    Pictures: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...Z_?usp=sharing

    Note: I have a Klein mm420 and when I try to test bigger caps (3300uf), I get OL. I didn't realize my tool wouldnt be able to test everything. Maybe I should return it and get a better one?

    Edit: Someone told me this -
    That resistor looks like it feeds a voltage regulator.
    Could be a shorted regulator transistor or a short in the DC path.
    Would take some testing to determine.

  • #2
    There is a SUNN subgroup on this forum. They might have answers. https://music-electronics-forum.com/...itar-amps/sunn

    Do you have a light-bulb limiter? If not a strongly recommend that you build one. It will save you from blowing up transistors.

    Speaking of transistors, have you checked them with the diode function on your multimeter? I think they are old germanium kind (instead of modern silicon) and might be hard to find replacements.

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    • #3
      You should check and make sure you have the +-15v supply rails working ok, also make sure the +-45v rails are ok.
      That resistor is used to drop the voltage from -45v to -15v using Q11 TIP30 transistor.
      The +-15v regulator circuits are on the left side of the power amp schematic, Q1 and Q11 with 15v zener diodes and resistors.
      The TIP transistors are always running to hot in these amps, try to get some better heatsinks for them if you can.
      I always find the Alpha Series service manual to be easier to read on the power amp, same amp on the Alpha and Beta. Alpha Series.pdf Beta Series Service Manual.pdf

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      • #4
        so far I've checked Q1, Q11, C9, C2, C3, R25, CR5 - All good

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        • #5
          Have you checked that your +&- 15V supplies are working? As I mentioned in your other thread, check power supplies first.
          "I took a photo of my ohm meter... It didn't help." Enzo 8/20/22

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          • #6
            Originally posted by The Dude View Post
            Have you checked that your +&- 15V supplies are working? As I mentioned in your other thread, check power supplies first.
            How would I do that? Right now I havent put any of the piece I took out back in the circuit board. Thanks for the help dude

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            • #7
              Which pieces have been removed, the ones from post #4? If they tested good out of circuit, put them back in.
              If you mean some other parts, list which ones are removed.
              Originally posted by Enzo
              I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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              • #8
                Moved to SUNN forum
                https://music-electronics-forum.com/...-problem/page2

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