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  • #46
    Originally posted by x-pro View Post
    The bottom pin of R16 may not be connected to GND
    or there's a bad GND wire on the part. For example, R13 R16 have no connection to GND
    The ground connections are solid.
    thx

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    • #47
      I have tested the connections many times and the continuity has always been there. I also replaced the mosfets even though when I tested them in diode mode they appeared intact but nothing changed. I do not know what to do. Tolerances don't really matter, there are no critical components and I redid the PCB in four different ways, but always the same volume drop problem. Maybe the people who say they made it didn't have the opportunity to A/B test, otherwise I'm sure they would have noticed, like in this video. But why !

      at 8:44
       

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      • #48
        A missing ground connection would not cause permanent DCV on the pot.
        If there's still DCV on the pot, find out why.
        I think the DCV must come from the drain of the third Mosfet.
        - Own Opinions Only -

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
          A missing ground connection would not cause permanent DCV on the pot.
          I apologize, I didn't follow through.
          R16 terminals may have been erroneously connected to +

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          • #50
            ricci, Enjoy Your Sound! Guitarists hunting for their sound.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by x-pro View Post
              I apologize, I didn't follow through.
              R16 terminals may have been erroneously connected to +
              No

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              • #52
                What's the DCV measured between the ends of C6?
                - Own Opinions Only -

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
                  What's the DCV measured between the ends of C6?
                  2.0V

                  Side + 4.678V
                  Side - 2.68 V

                  but is unstable

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                  • #54
                    Now the voltages on the tone are different:

                    T1 2.30v
                    T2 0.29v
                    T3 0.25V​

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                    • #55
                      Your measurements don't look consistent.
                      What is T1/2/3?
                      Is your meter battery fresh?

                      Does the DCV at the tone pot disappear when you lift one end of C6?
                      Do you still get sound with one end of C6 lifted?
                      Last edited by Helmholtz; 10-08-2023, 08:59 PM.
                      - Own Opinions Only -

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                      • #56
                        T1 is the lug1 of the tone pot etc..2 and 3.

                        Yes, I use a stabilized power supply​

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
                          Your measurements don't look consistent.
                          What is T1/2/3?
                          Is your meter battery fresh?

                          Does the DCV at the tone pot disappear when you lift one end of C6?
                          Do you still get sound with one end of C6 lifted?
                          Yes, if I disconnect the side - of C6 I still hear the sound but with a very low volume and the voltages are:

                          The voltages are about:

                          Lug1 0.7v
                          Lug2 0.09v
                          Lug3 0.13v

                          and they remain almost constant with both one leg and two legs​
                          Last edited by ricci; 10-08-2023, 11:23 PM.

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                          • #58
                            is the board cleaned of flux? they can be conductive

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by ricci View Post
                              Now the voltages on the tone are different:

                              T1 2.30v
                              T2 0.29v
                              T3 0.25V​
                              Maybe the author has pin 3 of the LEVEL regulator connected to +9V instead of GND?
                              But then it is not clear why these voltages drop when C6 is turned off ?​
                              Something is wrong with the mounting or tracing of the PCB.

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                              • #60
                                With the premise that the controls of my clone are at maximum, a few days ago I had observed that the two pedals sounded identical only when I kept the volume of the performance clone at 3 o'clock and Gain and Volume at maximum, now I noticed the same with the tone potentiometer of the clone performing, that is, if gain and volume are at maximum and the tone at 3 o'clock, the two pedals sound the same but if I go beyond 3 o'clock the sound becomes increasingly more devastating.

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