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  • 65 Gibson SG jr needs a new bridge. Help!

    The bridge on my 1965 Gibson SG jr is worn out. I looked on the internet but cant really find what I'm looking for. Theres talk about the original bridges were intonated for heavier gauge G string,I use 010 gauge strings. Where can I find a bridge for this guitar? One that will work with todays lighter gauge strings. Thanks.
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    Allparts has several bridges that will work. Many Epiphone guitars come with a version of that bridge made for a plain G.
    Nickel Compensated Stop Tailpiece | Allparts.com
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    • #3
      Here's a SG Jr bridge:

      STEWMAC.COM : SG Junior Bridge



      They state:

      ...in the original design for a wound G string and non-staggered mounting stud placement.
      Someone posted that this won't intonate with todays thinner strings. So this is like the original.

      So your other options are an adjustable bridge like these:

      STEWMAC.COM : Wilkinson/Gotoh Adjustable Bridge/Tailpiece

      STEWMAC.COM : Adjustable Wraparound Bridge

      STEWMAC.COM : Schroeder Stoptail Bridge

      There's more too:

      STEWMAC.COM : Electric guitar, non-trem tailpieces
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sweetfinger View Post
        Allparts has several bridges that will work. Many Epiphone guitars come with a version of that bridge made for a plain G.
        Nickel Compensated Stop Tailpiece | Allparts.com
        Yeah thats what I was looking for. A bridge thats made for an un wound G string. Theres two versions of this, one is made like the original thats for a wound G string, and the other is made for todays lighter gauge strings with a plane G string.

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        • #5
          I would use the adjustable version if it were me....just to have the best possible intonation.
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          • #6
            Also, that guitar will sound and stay in tune better if you just string it as a hardtail.
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            • #7
              Best Wrap i tried (by far) is the Faber : Tokai Guitar - TPWC-59NA, Wrap-around, compensated, nickel, aged 3021

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gtr_tech View Post
                I would use the adjustable version if it were me....just to have the best possible intonation.
                I agree! I can't take listening to those non adjustable bridges. Same with the three saddle Tele bridges. Those guitars always sound out of tune to me.
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                • #9
                  Adjustable wraps don't sound like wraps to my ears.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kleuck View Post
                    Adjustable wraps don't sound like wraps to my ears.
                    How so?
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                    • #11
                      Sorry, as i'm french, i'm not sure to understand your question, but i suppose you are asking for more precisions
                      In a few words : one piece/non adjustable wraparounds gives an obvious "acoustic" vibe where adjustable ones just do not.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kleuck View Post
                        Sorry, as i'm french, i'm not sure to understand your question, but i suppose you are asking for more precisions
                        In a few words : one piece/non adjustable wraparounds gives an obvious "acoustic" vibe where adjustable ones just do not.
                        That all depends on what the bridge is made of, and how heavy it is. If you get a lightweight adjustable bridge it will sound the same.

                        Aluminum bridges sound very nice to me.
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                        • #13
                          Faber are aluminium indeed, i did not test adjustable wraps made of aluminium though.
                          But i thik that all pieces of hardware are not aluminium right ?
                          So i doubt the sound can be the same, i have an ash strat, where i replaced the standard saddles, and only them by plain steel ones, and all others things being equal, the sound is waaaaaaaaay different.
                          I can't imagine it can be very different with an aluminium wrap with adjustable steel or brass saddles.
                          But you're Right, my message wasn’t clear enough, i was talking about aluminum wraps, with brass ones, adjustable saddles or not doesn't give any difference, or very very light one.
                          Last edited by kleuck; 08-26-2011, 10:06 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kleuck View Post
                            Faber are aluminium indeed, i did not test adjustable wraps made of aluminium though.
                            But i thik that all pieces of hardware are not aluminium right ?
                            So i doubt the sound can be the same, i have an ash strat, where i replaced the standard saddles, and only them by plain steel ones, and all others things being equal, the sound is waaaaaaaaay different.
                            I can't imagine it can be very different with an aluminium wrap with adjustable steel or brass saddles.
                            But you're Right, my message wasn’t clear enough, i was talking about aluminum wraps, with brass ones, adjustable saddles or not doesn't give any difference, or very very light one.
                            Unless otherwise noted, most of the wrap around bridges and other Gibson bridge parts are made of zinc.

                            If you had an aluminum bridge, you would probably want aluminum saddles. People often use steel saddles for more bite, or brass saddles for a warmer tone.

                            But given the choice I'd rather have my guitar play in tune than to have a slight change in tone. Or I would make aluminum saddles.
                            It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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                            • #15
                              For me, compensated wraps are enough to have a well tuned guitar.
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