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  • #16
    Originally posted by big_teee View Post
    I'm not that good of a player.
    My Les Paul Guitar doesn't do that. Any other ideas.
    B_T
    1) practice muting. Most players use both their left and right hands.

    2) rest your palm on the low strings.

    The Les Paul is very heavy, so it probably damps a lot of the body vibrations.

    Also, you might see some metal players who tap, stick a hair scrunchy around the neck between the 1st fret and nut. This cuts down on the extraneous open string sympathetic vibrations.

    There's no short cuts to learning to play well. A good thing to do is to practice with the guitar's tone set clean, or even unplugged. You will develop good left hand technique that way by hearing what you are actually doing and not have it covered up with distortion. Once you can sound clean and smooth that way, you will really sing when you push the amp.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
      1) practice muting. Most players use both their left and right hands.

      2) rest your palm on the low strings.

      The Les Paul is very heavy, so it probably damps a lot of the body vibrations.

      Also, you might see some metal players who tap, stick a hair scrunchy around the neck between the 1st fret and nut. This cuts down on the extraneous open string sympathetic vibrations.

      There's no short cuts to learning to play well. A good thing to do is to practice with the guitar's tone set clean, or even unplugged. You will develop good left hand technique that way by hearing what you are actually doing and not have it covered up with distortion. Once you can sound clean and smooth that way, you will really sing when you push the amp.
      I will try to work on that but that still don't fix my guitar that definitely has an issue.
      On this thread I am trying to improve the guitar right now, I'll work on the player the best I can later.
      "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
      Terry

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      • #18
        Originally posted by JoeM View Post
        I think the insulation SRV had on the guitar was to help minimize string breakage at the trem.

        You might do what I once saw on a teacher's guitar, he placed a thin piece of felt, about 1/4" wide (or less) right under the strings at the nut to dampen them. It was more for feedback problems on an archtop guitar, but it might help. (Kind of like a Van Eps string damper) Of course open strings will sound muted.
        That's kindof what I was thinking.
        I guess it won't help above the nut.
        I will try to experiment with this tonight.
        Thanks,
        Terry
        "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
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        • #19
          I know SRV did it to try to reduce string breaks but it would also seem to deaden sustain somewhat. Maybe, maybe not. Most likely it's a nut issue.
          Teee - where the string comes out on top behind the bridge.

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          • #20
            SRV had the plastic tubing where the strings came out of the bridge plate, not over the saddle. The common fix is a hair scrunchy down by the nut. Lots of players do that now.
            It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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            • #21
              Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
              SRV had the plastic tubing where the strings came out of the bridge plate, not over the saddle. The common fix is a hair scrunchy down by the nut. Lots of players do that now.
              I need more info?
              What is a hair Scrunchy?
              I've Lived a Sheltered Life!
              T
              "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
              Terry

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              • #22
                Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                I need more info?
                What is a hair Scrunchy?
                I've Lived a Sheltered Life!
                T
                Complete with videos:

                hair scrunchy on guitar neck - Google Search

                Some images. You would use these this way for tapping, but moving it closer to the nut would work for regular playing.



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                • #23
                  My wife Picked up some scrunchy's at the Dollar Store.
                  I put one right there behind against the nut, and It really helped.
                  Lightly Rings, but at least it is Tolerable Now.
                  Thanks Guys for the Help!
                  I don't Know what I would Do without this Forum.
                  The Knowledge Shared Here is Strictly Unmeasurable, and Amazing!!!
                  Terry
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                  • #24
                    Did she get the "metal free" ones?
                    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is."
                    - Yogi Berra

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JoeM View Post
                      Did she get the "metal free" ones?
                      I cut one in two.
                      All that was in it was rubber, like a big rubber O-Ring.
                      Mine don't really look like the ones in Davids Pics.
                      Terry
                      "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
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                      • #26
                        Not that i recommend it, but if you have humbuckers you may be able to get the lower 6th sting pole adjusted on the bucker that is. Only as a last resort. Be sure you do the right one nearest the bridge.
                        Is it in all the pups or just one specific.
                        Start by angling your pickup Bass side lower then the high side. If that don't help then I would look at the Volume and tone pots too. See what kind of ohm you have connected to it.

                        Many things can cause a ringing or harmonics through a instrument. Even a truss rod can cause issues.
                        GL
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Muskratt View Post
                          Not that i recommend it, but if you have humbuckers you may be able to get the lower 6th sting pole adjusted on the bucker that is. Only as a last resort. Be sure you do the right one nearest the bridge.
                          Is it in all the pups or just one specific.
                          Start by angling your pickup Bass side lower then the high side. If that don't help then I would look at the Volume and tone pots too. See what kind of ohm you have connected to it.

                          Many things can cause a ringing or harmonics through a instrument. Even a truss rod can cause issues.
                          GL
                          This is a mechanical issue, it rings unplugged.
                          The Hair Scrunchy's helped Some.
                          I'm trying to learn to do more palm muting, but is unhandy being I play with a pick.
                          I'm real familiar with all the adjustments of Pickups.
                          These are pickups that I made. I build Pickups, and This is my Pickup Test guitar.
                          I've had probably 50 different Pickups on this guitar testing them, they all ring.
                          All of the wound big strings ring at times.
                          I can pick a melody on the high strings, and they go to ringing.
                          It's a highly resonant guitar with the through bridge and all.
                          Thanks,
                          Later,
                          Terry
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                          Terry

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                          • #28
                            Hmm.. If you have a stethoscope try to hear the wood or other areas. You can use a Hose and maybe fine the source. Some automotive shops carry a scope too.

                            On the les Pauls we get a buzz or a annoying sound that comes from the bridge once in awhile. (At Least from my Epiphone LP)


                            I understand that your i think is way different of a ring.. I figured I would add this in for the researchers..

                            GL.
                            Bugera 333XL 212 Combo 2009 Factory Mod KT-77"'s JJ ECC83S
                            Roland Cube 20
                            Schecter BlackJack SLS C1 SD Blackouts
                            Martin DX1AE Acoustic
                            Bad Monkey OD
                            Line 6 M9 Stompbox
                            Behringer EQ700
                            Live Wire Cables

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Muskratt View Post
                              Hmm.. If you have a stethoscope try to hear the wood or other areas. You can use a Hose and maybe fine the source. Some automotive shops carry a scope too.

                              On the les Pauls we get a buzz or a annoying sound that comes from the bridge once in awhile. (At Least from my Epiphone LP)


                              I understand that your i think is way different of a ring.. I figured I would add this in for the researchers..

                              GL.
                              I will check that, Thanks.
                              Oh Well If I turn up the 2204 and 4x12 enough You don't hear it, Everything rings.
                              Including My Ears!
                              B_T
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                              Terry

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