5 way strat switch wiring Q.

[Sea Chief]

Hi chaps, happy new year to all on here! Let's hope for a healthy 2022.

Having problems wiring a Goldo ( usa made ) 5 way strat switch. Ive wired it up but no sound. The switch comes with a diagram.. but frustratingly without showing which way up, or which way round it is orientated.

Ok what I have is this https://www.thomann.de/gb/goeldo_5weg_schalter.htm

What I find online is all sorts of different wiring styles, with all sorts of different switches. My previous bad one is totally different for eg, having a 1-7 or 1-8 or whatever it was, numbered lugs on one side of the switch.

This one has 4 lugs, either side. Nice big photo in the link above helps.

Can anyone help? Thanks, SC

[Sea Chief]

This is the info included with my switch. But it doesn't say which way round, or which way up it is orientated making it useless:

[Sea Chief]

Furthermore, the nearest online diagram ( as far as I can physically tell ) IE the closest physical resemblence, to my switch, is this eg below.

Fig 2 ( Just a few photos down ).

https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/l...plained-part-1

But 1) the lugs are orientated differently to mine ( the 1st down is on the R in my switch, but on the L in this switch ), & 2) the info has completely different sort of 'opposite looking' wiring to my diagram included with my switch.

Also there is no further information, on either switch, to know what the wiring is onward at the tone pots is: the switch Im removing, has the tone pots wired together, with 3 different lugs on each pot to determine correctly.

And then a volume pot to hook up. And a capacitor too. If anyone can help..

Thanks, SC

[pdf64]

Maybe the switch contacts are the same either way around? ie the wiper / common are bottom left and top right.
Hence the diagram holds true whichever way around you’ve got it.

[Sea Chief]

Maybe the switch contacts are the same either way around? ie the wiper / common are bottom left and top right.
Hence the diagram holds true whichever way around you’ve got it.

Hi pdf, HNY..

would it be logical to assume my diagram on my paper/ came with it, is to be looked at as if the switch lever was below these 2 x 4 lugs.. ie one would be viewing the 8 lugs here from the "underneath pov" ?

Maybe I can go from there.

[big_teee]

With a multi meter, set on ohms?
Check continuity, or zero ohms thru the switch, in different positions.
Determine the common poles, determine which is pickup 123, and tone.
You can chart it out on paper.
One side is the pickups, one side is the tone, with one tone position left unused.

[pdf64]

HNY to you too.
Yes, it's reasonable to assume that the view used by the diagram is looking down on to the terminals.

[Chuck H]

But even wired incorrectly there would still be positions with output. Since you have no output there could be something else involved in the rewiring that was overlooked.?.

[Sea Chief]

But even wired incorrectly there would still be positions with output. Since you have no output there could be something else involved in the rewiring that was overlooked.?.

Hi Chuck. HNY to you.

Well Ive thrown out the diagram that came with it.. its just wrong, & rewired it like the other seymour duncan image.. & it now works, but, its the wrong way round: ie the switch positions are opposite. So Ive got to redo it yet again. Ffs this is ridiculous. No image/ either, says which way round the fkn switch is.

Ive yet to determine what " to tone 1" means, having 3 lugs & a cap to add somewhere. Its working, but Ive no confidence the tone pots & vol pot are wired right. If ive gotta do it all again Im best redoing all the pots, or at least checking against something.

Is there a reliable diagram anyone knows of the potentiometer wiring ? Thanks, SC

[Sea Chief]

HNY to you too.
Yes, it's reasonable to assume that the view used by the diagram is looking down on to the terminals.

Good thanks pdf. Maybe this is a general layout rule of thumb I might remember.

[pdf64]

I think manufacturers try to be helpful, and connection details are typically from the perspective of the person doing the soldering. So valves it’s looking up at the pins, but then with ICs, it’s looking down at the top. So like big_tee advises, where feasible, check with a meter.

[Sea Chief]

I think manufacturers try to be helpful, and connection details are typically from the perspective of the person doing the soldering. So valves it’s looking up at the pins, but then with ICs, it’s looking down at the top. So like big_tee advises, where feasible, check with a meter.

Hi pdf, I just wouldn't know how to test it with a meter: wired up-? Not wired up? if so from where to where, & for what actual purpose?

If the bridge wire is orientated twds one physical end.. logic suggests that if the switch is shifted twds this same physical end, then it should follow that the switch would be in the bridge position. But, in actuality, the very opposite seems to happen. I think. Which means this facet would complicate/ even negate any DMM testing ( if that is the purpose of the DMM idea ).

[pdf64]

Apologies but with so little common (technical) understanding, it becomes too difficult for me to explain this stuff over the internet.

[Sea Chief]

Apologies but with so little common (technical) understanding, it becomes too difficult for me to explain this stuff over the internet.

No I understand pdf.. it must be frustrating to try helping me: always appreciate you trying. I do understand what you mean, but often not innitially/ it often takes me many goes & brainache to re-read it.

But success- Ive managed to do it I think.. redid the whole flippin lot! Again. Stuffing it all in was a huge pita. Sounding good too.

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Are strat bodies usually routed with extra room for humbuckers? Or usually as much body wood left in/ routed for single coils as a rule?

I'm trying to establish what my body might be/ who made it. I just bought it off eBay i think 15 yrs ago, no name, but the finish is so good Im just curious: it has extra room for humbuckers ( the only possible ID aspect ).

Thanks all. SC

[Dave H]

If the bridge wire is orientated twds one physical end.. logic suggests that if the switch is shifted twds this same physical end, then it should follow that the switch would be in the bridge position. But, in actuality, the very opposite seems to happen.

The nice thing about having an open switch like you have is being able to see how the switch works. In the picture below you can see that moving the switch tip to the left moves the wiper to the right hand contact i.e. not as 'logic' suggests