I know. Not another Peter Green out of phase thread. Well this is really not about the middle out of phase tone so don't turn the channel yet.
Here is the short version. And if I am just too blind to have noticed this mentioned before forgive me. Anyway I noticed that wiring the neck pickup out of phase makes a big difference in the tone of the neck pickup when the selector switch is set only for the neck pickup. With the neck pickup wired out of phase it you get a much clearer and acoustic low end almost devoid of mud with an 8.2K neck pickup with 42AWG PE. Why? Having spent no real time trying to figure it out I assume it must have something to do with changing the signal path to the volume and tone pots when using 50's wiring. Anyway it is pretty pronounced.
Reverse winding or wiring out of phase sounds different in the middle position because of the altered tone of the neck pickup IMO. I tried every imaginable combination in my gutted Les Paul that I can swap pups in super quick and there is no question there is a tonal change in the neck pickup that also effects both out of phase and regular middle position tones. If you wire the neck pickup out of phase and flip the neck pickup to get a "normal" middle position tone you still retain the clearer, more acoustic, mud free neck tone and the middle position becomes more chimey as well. I think is very good tweak for higher output neck pickups even if you don't want a Peter Green out of phase middle tone.
Anyone else have experience with this? I think Spence and others have wired out of phase to get Peter Green tones. But I don't recall anyone mentioning the changed neck tone due to out of phase wiring which is where I think the real tonal change is. I tried it with 42 PE and 42 heavy Formvar and the heavy Formvar muddied the low end to the point that the increased low end clarity was mostly lost. But with 42 PE it was a pronounced change for the better.
Here is the short version. And if I am just too blind to have noticed this mentioned before forgive me. Anyway I noticed that wiring the neck pickup out of phase makes a big difference in the tone of the neck pickup when the selector switch is set only for the neck pickup. With the neck pickup wired out of phase it you get a much clearer and acoustic low end almost devoid of mud with an 8.2K neck pickup with 42AWG PE. Why? Having spent no real time trying to figure it out I assume it must have something to do with changing the signal path to the volume and tone pots when using 50's wiring. Anyway it is pretty pronounced.
Reverse winding or wiring out of phase sounds different in the middle position because of the altered tone of the neck pickup IMO. I tried every imaginable combination in my gutted Les Paul that I can swap pups in super quick and there is no question there is a tonal change in the neck pickup that also effects both out of phase and regular middle position tones. If you wire the neck pickup out of phase and flip the neck pickup to get a "normal" middle position tone you still retain the clearer, more acoustic, mud free neck tone and the middle position becomes more chimey as well. I think is very good tweak for higher output neck pickups even if you don't want a Peter Green out of phase middle tone.
Anyone else have experience with this? I think Spence and others have wired out of phase to get Peter Green tones. But I don't recall anyone mentioning the changed neck tone due to out of phase wiring which is where I think the real tonal change is. I tried it with 42 PE and 42 heavy Formvar and the heavy Formvar muddied the low end to the point that the increased low end clarity was mostly lost. But with 42 PE it was a pronounced change for the better.
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