Specs on EVH wolfgang pickups

[soundmasterg]

Speaking of high gain pickups, I just put a set of Duncan Full Shred's back into my first homemade guitar and they kick ass for metal things. I had a JB and a Pearly Gates in there, but they're gonna get sold now.

Anyone have any idea of what the winding method is on the Full Shreds? The bridge pickup is about 13.6k DCR and the neck pickup is about 7.5k DCR. Both use allen screws and alnico 5 magnets. I'm guessing 43 or 44 gauge wire, but have no idea really....

Greg

[David Schwab]

My impression exactly (re: that pic) specially the cone/pyramid shaped wind where the base has more wire than the top, many of the old DiMarzio SDHB/DS's I have rewound were that shape.

I think it's just the angle of the pickup in the photo. The side view shows that the coils aren't cone shaped.



I have an old SDHB and the coils look pretty even up and down. I'm not doubting that some of them came out lop sided though. I know some of mine do...

[kevinT]

Speaking of high gain pickups, I just put a set of Duncan Full Shred's back into my first homemade guitar and they kick ass for metal things. I had a JB and a Pearly Gates in there, but they're gonna get sold now.

Anyone have any idea of what the winding method is on the Full Shreds? The bridge pickup is about 13.6k DCR and the neck pickup is about 7.5k DCR. Both use allen screws and alnico 5 magnets. I'm guessing 43 or 44 gauge wire, but have no idea really....

Greg

the bridge pickup is probably wound with 43 awg. The neck probably 42 awg.

Question, on the full shred, does the hex slugs go through the baseplate? In other words, are there any holes or are they like the super distortion ...solid back?

[soundmasterg]

the bridge pickup is probably wound with 43 awg. The neck probably 42 awg.

Question, on the full shred, does the hex slugs go through the baseplate? In other words, are there any holes or are they like the super distortion ...solid back?

You know, I'm not sure. They're in my guitar but I can try to pull them out to see in the next week or so. I did get Extech specs on them before I put them in if anyone wanted to know that?

Greg

[RedHouse]

Any big pickup maker winds thousands of pickups in a week, no one is going to watch each individual coil being wound. I doubt seriously if you look at that same model you are going to find all them wound the same way, if there was any big "secret" about coil shapes Larry would have patented it long ago. If you look at vintage PAFs all of those coil shapes I mentioned can be found in their short few years they were made. I have had all those coil shapes appear on my own machine winder that I built, the coil shapes are just dependent on how the traverse is set, anyone who use an automated winder knows this, Lollar talks about it in his book. There's really no negligible effect on tone how the coil shape is, probably so small most couldn't hear it. I experimented with those shapes done on purpose and basically its not even a measurable difference if any. Winding pickups on huge multiple coil winders its a chore to make sure every coil is set up right, so you will see variations in coil shapes on mass produced products....

Preachin' to the chior Dave.

(sorry about the name fux'up there)

[designrol]

This is a reply to paulyy's question on what type of pots are used on the new EVH Wolfgang. I have one - the Vintage White Wolfie and they use the EVH/Bourns low-friction 500k (volume) and 250k (tone). I have also ordered the 2 EVH/Bourns 500k low-friction pots and installed one on my Peavey Wolfgang Special EXP and one on my Charvel EVH Art Series. I love the way those pots feel and the taper on those pots are so smooth and quiet. They don't have a sudden jump in volume like most standard
pots have. Anyway, my Peavey Wolfie also has a custom pickup I installed from Guitar Force Custom Pickups. It's the "Erupter" model that is spec'd to Eddie's original Franky PAF he wound himself. That is an AWESOME pickup. Needless to say, my modified
Peavey was my main axe until I got the new Fender made EVH Wolfgang. Now it's my main axe and my Peavey is my backup. Anyway, I've been wondering myself about the spec's on the new EVH Wolfgang pickups and Google'd information about it and found your thread on the subject. Thanks!

[RedHouse]

...It's the "Erupter" model that is spec'd to Eddie's original Franky PAF he wound himself...

Did someone get ahold of that pickup to do a profile on it, or how was it spec'd to Eddie's original Franky PAF?.

[copperheadroads]

shake her down ............ brad will walk you through it

[RedHouse]

shake her down ............ brad will walk you through it

I'm just curious, I loved the first two albums.

[copperheadroads]

i agree i would mind getting having some spec's on each coil either

[David Schwab]

I have also ordered the 2 EVH/Bourns 500k low-friction pots and installed one on my Peavey Wolfgang Special EXP and one on my Charvel EVH Art Series. I love the way those pots feel and the taper on those pots are so smooth and quiet.

They appear to be the standard Bourns "Guitar Pots". I have a set here. You can get them much cheaper through Mouser and other sources.

It's the "Erupter" model that is spec'd to Eddie's original Franky PAF he wound himself.

Didn't Seymour Duncan rewind his original pickup?

[designrol]

You can check out KevinT (Kevin Taylor) at GuitarForcePickups.com to read about his "Erupter" pickup. From what I have read in past guitar magazines and online blogs, they all have relayed the same info about Eddie's original PAF pickup on the black & white striped and now has become the Frankenstein (red/black/white striped) guitar. I do know that the original pickup he modified was from his Gibson ES-335 which was a '55 or '57 PAF. Also, the spec's from the Seymour Duncan '78 model pickup has the same spec's as Kevin's "Erupter". You can also read my review on the Gutiar Force "Erupter" pickup at Harmony-Central as well as my review on the new Fender EVH Wolfgang.

[David Schwab]

You can check out KevinT (Kevin Taylor) at GuitarForcePickups.com to read about his "Erupter" pickup.

Kevin is a member here, and posted earlier in this thread.

[designrol]

Yah, I saw that. I was hoping that he would see my comments and chime in with his opinions and observations on what I have mentioned. So, are the standard Bourns pots low-friction? I thought or read that the low-friction concept was totally Eddie's idea for his new Wolfgang and that he went with Bourns because of their durability and his own experience with that company. One thing about the Bourns low-friction pots by EVH. You can't use the old standard tophat plastic knobs that have the 1 - 10 numbers and have "Volume" or "Tone" embossed on them because the post is a larger diameter and does not have the serrated edge for those plastic knobs to slide onto. So, I ended up ordering a couple of the same MXR plastic knobs that are on the new Wolfgang and mounted those on both my guitars. I also had to drill out a larger hole on my Peavey Wolfgang to make the new Bourns pot fit. I didn't need to drill on my Charvel EVH Art Series, though...Hmmmm! But, I still really dig those Bourns low-friction pots, anyway.

[David Schwab]

So, are the standard Bourns pots low-friction?

Yes, the "guitar pots" are.

I thought or read that the low-friction concept was totally Eddie's idea for his new Wolfgang and that he went with Bourns because of their durability and his own experience with that company.

They are high quality parts. They were especially popular back in the 70's. Gibson uses the sealed versions in the new Les Paul models.

One thing about the Bourns low-friction pots by EVH. You can't use the old standard tophat plastic knobs that have the 1 - 10 numbers and have "Volume" or "Tone" embossed on them because the post is a larger diameter and does not have the serrated edge for those plastic knobs to slide onto. So, I ended up ordering a couple of the same MXR plastic knobs that are on the new Wolfgang and mounted those on both my guitars. I also had to drill out a larger hole on my Peavey Wolfgang to make the new Bourns pot fit. I didn't need to drill on my Charvel EVH Art Series, though...Hmmmm! But, I still really dig those Bourns low-friction pots, anyway.

You can get the knurled shaft version.

AES - Parts Catalog

They are 1/4" shafts though, and speed knobs are 6mm. I had the same issue with the set screw knobs I have.