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  • new here..have you seen this?

    this was hard (for me) to find

    its supposedly what an EMG 81 has inside...a pretty crappy op amp:



    terrible slew rate (~1V/us) and could in theory run at 36VDC (!)... anyone run 4 x 9v batteries?

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    Slew rate is much worse, around 0.2 V/uS.
    The op amp was chosen for battery life and
    draws only 100uA.

    There are better inexpensive opamps that will work just as well.

    For comparison, the OPA2604 is a recording-grade audio opamp
    that draws ~11ma and would drain your average 9V battery
    in less than a day.

    -drh
    "Det var helt Texas" is written Nowegian meaning "that's totally Texas." When spoken, it means "that's crazy."

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    • #3
      That schematic has been kicking around the web for years with no way to know if in fact that's the op-amp EMG chose to use. EMG lists their max supply voltage as 27V not 36V. In their active bass electronics they like to use LM442s I see no reason why they would drop to this when batt savings really isn't an issue for most folks.

      "Aktive", "Shema"? Only scandinavians spell like that...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by David King View Post
        That schematic has been kicking around the web for years with no way to know if in fact that's the op-amp EMG chose to use. EMG lists their max supply voltage as 27V not 36V. In their active bass electronics they like to use LM442s I see no reason why they would drop to this when batt savings really isn't an issue for most folks.

        "Aktive", "Shema"? Only scandinavians spell like that...
        I think it's Polska. I actually know where this came from. I posted some photos of the innards of the 81 some time ago sent to me by a pickup maker in Poland. The same fellow and a friend reverse engineered the circuit from the PCB extracted from the 81. It took quite some time... a couple of years actually (not saying they were working on it the whole time). But that's when he sent me that schematic.

        If I remember they didn't know what op-amp is was because it was marked with a private label number.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
          I think it's Polska. I actually know where this came from. I posted some photos of the innards of the 81 some time ago sent to me by a pickup maker in Poland. The same fellow and a friend reverse engineered the circuit from the PCB extracted from the 81. It took quite some time... a couple of years actually (not saying they were working on it the whole time). But that's when he sent me that schematic.

          If I remember they didn't know what op-amp is was because it was marked with a private label number.
          wow a cloak and dagger pickup maker!...I guess it shouldn't just be the amp heads digging through Dumble epoxy potting compound.

          To paraphrase the Head of Coke when asked by a writer if he could publish their secret recipe: we don't rely on secrets to keep market share...we've got marketing for that...

          EMG is worshiped by (too) many

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tedmich View Post
            wow a cloak and dagger pickup maker!...I guess it shouldn't just be the amp heads digging through Dumble epoxy potting compound.

            To paraphrase the Head of Coke when asked by a writer if he could publish their secret recipe: we don't rely on secrets to keep market share...we've got marketing for that...

            EMG is worshiped by (too) many
            Sometimes it's just curiosity. Though I can't speak for the motives of the guys that ripped the 81 apart. He did say it was dead though.

            I ripped apart a working SA once, just because I like taking things apart.

            I have no desire to copy it, but I did learn a couple of things in the process.

            Boy they wind a lot of wire on them bobbins!
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            It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


            http://coneyislandguitars.com
            www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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