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  • #16
    The whisker disks would work with my current setup... the spool is sitting on the floor!

    It really does whip around quit a bit when I'm winding fast. I need a tensioner... I wind so fast these days that it burns my fingers... a little tape helps that.
    It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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    • #17
      I think the disks work better with the 5 lb spools that are white plastic and have the square edges. I find that I really don't need them for the smaller-size spools.

      Obviously the disks add tension because of drag on the wiskers so you have to take it into account when you're trying to decide on a tension for a specific design.


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      • #18
        Yeah, it's the big 5 pound spool that really has the wire whipping around. The smaller spools don't seem as bad.
        It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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        • #19
          Originally posted by Possum View Post
          When I sent back my Azonic tensioner because it broke the wire every time from the jerking gauge spring meter, they suggested trying one of these
          Azonic Products - Acu-Flex
          It didn't look like it would work with my setup so I passed on it.
          At their homepage they show their tensioner and wisker disk in action:
          Azonic Products - World's leading manufacturer for the coil winding industry. Wisker Disk, rack mounting systems for multiple winding operations.
          Note that the coil being wound is a symmetrical ROUND coil, not an asymetrical guitar pickup. Guitar pickups cause the meter spring to bounce crazily until it breaks the wire.
          I think that the problem with the Azotic tensioner (other than whisker disks) is that the dancer (the pulley on a stick at the top where the wire takes a 90 degree turn) is too heavy. The angle of this arm controls tension.

          I bet a whisker disk plus a dancer made of a music wire spring with a teflon grommet at the end (instead of the pulley) will work for pickups, as the music wire will be able to bob in unison with the pulsations in wire speed caused by winding onto an oblong bobbin, following the variations more or less perfectly.

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          • #20
            [QUOTE=Possum;111034]... put your magnet wire in a plastic bucket a little oversized than the spool, works and is alot cheaper...QUOTE]

            +1

            I also attach a medium length plastic funnel to the top after placing the wire spool inside, no whipping at all.
            -Brad

            ClassicAmplification.com

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Joe Gwinn View Post
              ... dancer...music... bob in unison with the pulsations ...
              All to a techno beat!

              [boom...boom...boom...boom...boom...boom...boom...boom... boom...boom...]

              It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


              http://coneyislandguitars.com
              www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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              • #22
                Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
                All to a techno beat!

                [boom...boom...boom...boom...boom...boom...boom...boom... boom...boom...]

                Need syncopation.

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                • #23
                  no... you guys got it all wrong. It's head banging that the movement of the tensioning arm represents. At least that is what it looks like to me when I have the music cranked up to Pantera when I'm winding..
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by kevinT View Post
                    ...I have the music cranked up to Pantera when I'm winding..
                    That's speed winding!
                    It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


                    http://coneyislandguitars.com
                    www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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                    • #25
                      asdf

                      The artical just seems so cut and paste from here what was said a coon's age ago

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by NightWinder View Post
                        The artical just seems so cut and paste from here what was said a coon's age ago
                        +1.

                        Plus, he's not doing anything different than anyone else. i.e., research, proper materials, etc...
                        www.guitarforcepickups.com

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                        • #27
                          + another 1. Even research should be acknowledged and thanked.
                          Hi SPENCE how yah doin Bruv, hows Sam he ok.

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                          • #28
                            ...

                            I have found guys on Ebay ripping off text from my website and the rare auctions I've done. The only "research" they ever did was to steal other's verbage. The "PAFs" they are selling are nothing more than StewMac kits to the core :-) The public can't tell the difference unfortunately. Its gotten so I can read a pickup maker's self promotional copy and tell what level of experience they are at. David at Tonequest sent me an interview response from some guy in Russia or someplace over there and he repeated every cliche and unfounded myth I think I've ever heard about PAFs. I could tell all he was doing was using StewMac kits and making big claims for them.
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                            Stephens Design Pickups

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                            • #29
                              Flying Debis

                              Originally posted by Possum View Post
                              I have found guys on Ebay ripping off text from my website and the rare auctions I've done. The only "research" they ever did was to steal other's verbage. The "PAFs" they are selling are nothing more than StewMac kits to the core :-) The public can't tell the difference unfortunately. Its gotten so I can read a pickup maker's self promotional copy and tell what level of experience they are at. David at Tonequest sent me an interview response from some guy in Russia or someplace over there and he repeated every cliche and unfounded myth I think I've ever heard about PAFs. I could tell all he was doing was using StewMac kits and making big claims for them.
                              SO the shits getting pretty thick eh ol' bird? Tasting the same Kool-aid gets nasty- LOL to me , thats the hardest part about making a new model. Putting the sounds into words...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by jonson View Post
                                + another 1. Even research should be acknowledged and thanked.
                                Hi SPENCE how yah doin Bruv, hows Sam he ok.
                                I found Sam choking on his bok choi the other day. Managed to free his airways and get a line into him. Since then he's just been muttering something about the people he's imparted advice to who never give him credit.
                                Personally I owe a lot to him and a little to sheer persistence.
                                sigpic Dyed in the wool

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