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  • Schatten winder motor

    You guys know what this is? I assume mine is burning out.

    The first one I had quit turning, would turn real slow after a while, maybe 6 months to a year. I got my new one, and its now doing the same thing.

    Itd probably be better to get another machine to wind on, but this works for me just fine.

    So I couldnt get a response from Schatten, Im waiting on Stewmac, and Im curious as to whether or not I could just replace the motor myself. I know I could, I just need to find the right one....

    Any help is appreciate, thanks!

  • #2
    I had the same thing happen. My machine is about three years old.

    I emailed Schatten, and got a reply. They wanted me to send the winder in, but it was still working, albeit slower than usual, and I had pickups to wind. So I opted to get a new motor from them. Les Schatten even called me to discuss it.

    That fixed the problem for about a month, but then it was worse than before.

    So the real issue is the motor speed control. He thought that might be an issue.

    Now I have a variable speed drill attached to the left axle to power the thing.
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    • #3
      Ugh. 400 dollars for a winder that works 6 months for me.

      I need to find another way to do things then. Ive got a drill set up on mine. Very loud.

      Thanks though - I might try to get something fixed. Well see.

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      • #4
        I have a Schatten winder and also had the same problem as you. I ended having a more heavy duty winder built. In my quest I found this placeENGINE
        Look for winders in their index. Sometime they have some really good deals on older surplus commercial winding machines.
        Bill Megela

        Electric City Pickups

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bill M View Post
          Sometime they have some really good deals on older surplus commercial winding machines.
          This looks like a lot of machine, for $99.99:


          HGR Industrial Surplus - We sell everything
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          • #6
            Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
            This looks like a lot of machine, for $99.99:
            I've been checking out Verticle mills from this place. In the winder section did you take a look at the 5 Rea magnet wire winders. The programable counters on them are worth more than they are asking for the whole machines. I bought 1 a couple days ago and will report when I receive it. I just had to have it.
            Bill Megela

            Electric City Pickups

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bill M View Post
              I've been checking out Verticle mills from this place. In the winder section did you take a look at the 5 Rea magnet wire winders. The programable counters on them are worth more than they are asking for the whole machines. I bought 1 a couple days ago and will report when I receive it. I just had to have it.
              I didn't see these the first time.



              I just picked up one of those Durant counters on eBay not long ago.

              New they go for about $600! Took me a while to find a replacement relay for it, but then I got one pretty cheap.

              It's going into a future winder project... once I decide what that is.
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              • #8
                Dave, I think one of those winders is calling your name!!!!!!!!Seriously they dont give much info on what they sell. If you call them, as I did, they will walk out and look at the unit and tell you anything that you want to know. Such as the rea winder has a reverse switch, speed control, and a jack for what I think is for a foot controller. Even if they need some work they are much cheaper than a Schatten winder and probably much more heavy duty.
                Bill Megela

                Electric City Pickups

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                • #9
                  HGR is a good reason to move to Ohio.
                  I can't imagine spending money on a Schatten winder. WHY DON'T THEY PUT A BIGGER MOTOR on that thing already. It would cost them an extra $5 per unit. Maybe Schatten got his training in Detroit? He needs to think like Pontiac for a minute instead of metro Geo.

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                  • #10
                    I dont know what Im getting myself into - but maybe I should pick up one of those 199 winders.

                    I wouldnt know what to do with the damn thing if it had parts problems. Looks like a whole lot more machine for the money than the schatten.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by achase4u View Post
                      You guys know what this is? I assume mine is burning out.
                      I remember reading that the Schatten motor is a VCR player motor and that MCM Electronics sells exact replacements inexpensively.


                      Audio and Video, Computer Parts, Batteries, Cable and Wiring at MCM Electronics



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                      • #12
                        achase4u, If you are doing some production winding then scrap the Schatten. Trust me it is not up to the task. You need a better winder. I found that out. To me the Schatten is more of a hobby winder. I'll definately post more when I receive my Rea winder. Like I said before I upgraded from the schatten because you cannot count on it for production work. If you decide to buy the Rea winder ask for R J. He's a good guy.
                        Bill Megela

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                        • #13
                          Agree completely. Although I've never had a Schatten, I was kind of scared off by the pics of the machine itself. Little tiny pancake motor... nope. I've built two with sewing machine motors that work great and are still going strong after about 4 years. I'm moving to a more industrial motor with the next winder, but the sewing machine motor is good and cheap. Check out ebay.. they usually come with a foot speed control for about $25
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                          • #14
                            ugh, christ. a 400 dollar hobby winder. lame.

                            Let me know about that REA winder please.

                            I gotta figure something else out pretty quick.

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                            • #15
                              Here's the motor
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                              It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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