Gibson EB 3 Reissue

[Sportbernd]

Does anyone know specs of these?
Wire size and type, turns? Neck and bridge.
Someone told me they have Thunderbird specs!?
One of my customers wants to have his Epi EB3 modified.
Thanks

[Yves]

You'll find interesting info regarding the specs here (have a look at the bass pickup sheet from the workbook)
http://online.physics.uiuc.edu/cours...ickup_Data.xls

Many other interseting figures about other pickups in general BTW.

Less details, but maybe some info there:
Gibson Bass Guitar Pickups

I've read (I am not sure where) that it is about 25000 turns (2x12500) for the neck pickup.

My personnal guess is that it is 42awg but I'd say this might even go up to 30000 turns to achieve 30k.

I have a prospective customer who's just made inquieries about rewinding one of them.

If he comes back to me I may have more details then.

[David Schwab]

The real question is why would you want to wind one to vintage spec? It's kind of a one trick pony. It's interesting, but very limited.

I had one in my Rick, and rewound it to about 12K to get a clearer tone. It still had the vibe of the stock pickup, but with more top end, and a more open tone.

They don't call them "mudbuckers" for nothing!

[Sportbernd]

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The real question is why would you want to wind one to vintage spec? It's kind of a one trick pony. It's interesting, but very limited.

I had one in my Rick, and rewound it to about 12K to get a clearer tone. It still had the vibe of the stock pickup, but with more top end, and a more open tone.

They don't call them "mudbuckers" for nothing!

My customer want them to sound like the original pickups.He plays with his tribute band songs by "The Animals", "Free" and others. We came to the conclusion to wind the neck with 42 gauge and less turns(10000 per coil) and the bridge with 43 gauge and more turns.
The Epiphone neck pickup is wound with 35 gauge wire and has a series restistance of 1,2 KOhm. It sounds nothing like the original. Cheap Korea stuff.

[David Schwab]

My customer want them to sound like the original pickups.He plays with his tribute band songs by "The Animals", "Free" and others.

It is a cool tone, for what it is. That's why I stuck one on my Rick.

We came to the conclusion to wind the neck with 42 gauge and less turns(10000 per coil) and the bridge with 43 gauge and more turns.
The Epiphone neck pickup is wound with 35 gauge wire and has a series restistance of 1,2 KOhm. It sounds nothing like the original. Cheap Korea stuff.

Well, that's really weird. Did Gibson mix up the EB-0 and the LP Signature (Jack Casady) pickups?

That formula should get you in there.

[jonson]

The Tokai version has the same pickup as the Epiphone 1.2k Useless.Got one here in bits which is how it will remain.

[David Schwab]

The Tokai version has the same pickup as the Epiphone 1.2k Useless.

That would work well with a step up transformer or a preamp.

I bet they are using the same coils as the Jack Casady pickup.

[jonson]

Why didn't they fit one in the first place or go convensional.

[David Schwab]

Why didn't they fit one in the first place or go convensional.

Who knows? I'm convinced that someone at Gibson has gone insane.

This is proof:

Jimi Hendrix electric guitar packages | Musicradar.com

Meet the Jimi Hendrix grand piano | Musicradar.com

And if that doesn't convince you, I present the ugliest guitar ever made:

Gibson SG Zoot Suit

[David King]

And if that doesn't convince you, I present the ugliest guitar ever made: Gibson SG Zoot Suit

Whoa Bessie!
That's good ole Rutland Plywood "Dymondwood" They're even using it "quartered" in the necks. Greg Curbow must be spinning in his grave.

[jonson]

Oh I don't need convincing, saw some horrors on both the Gibson and Fender stands in Frankfurt this year. Turquoise green and pink matt finish non grainfilled SGs and pauls and the pickup demo on the soundstage was totaly crap and the gear kept breaking down. Fender had a full wall of Claptrap blackie strats copied from the origional, cept they were all different.
Stand of the show "Well these took some licking".

[David Schwab]

Stand of the show "Well these took some licking".

Ha!

The funny thing about the whole "Gibson Strat" is that people had such negative comments, that Gibson removed all references to the guitar from their web site!

Gibson removes Hendrix content from official website | Musicradar.com

Gibson - Gibson USA Blog - Live From the Production Line at Gibson USA

[Possum]

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OMG!!!!! What a low class commercial atrocity, jeeez thats almost funny! Thing is, those things are going to be collector's items big time I bet. The Zoot Suit SG I betcha 50/50 those are going to go up in value over the years, they are so distinctive and oddball, if I had the spare change change I'd buy one.

I wonder if the Hendrix guitar sets will ever actually hit the market or get dumped on Ebay or something, controversial stuff like that, years later sell for ridiculous prices. Two greed mongers, the Hendrix estate and Gibson got together and had a baby, how funny....

[Evilbiker]

Hi Bernd Axel, Urban here!
I hade a customer with a Epi EB-0 that wanting it rewind to orginal Gibson spec. and i did the same as you, started a thread here and got alot info and searched the internet for more info! The info led me to 42awg and around 30k, i gotten the same answers that you in this thread....but when i wound the Mudbucker to 30k, thats 15k on each bobbin and it was with poly wire i wound it with and it was about 23000 turns on each bobbin to get that 15k! Theres alot of wire i say! The customer got realy happy and i made a frame for the pickup to! View image: IMGP1400.jpg

[salvarsan]

Who knows? I'm convinced that someone at Gibson has gone insane. [snip] *...I present the ugliest guitar ever made:
Gibson SG Zoot Suit

Yup.
The birch laminate body would be more interesting without the dye.



They also have an all maple SG that probably gets rid of that emaciated clean tone that the mahogany ones tend toward. *Maple neck+maple body - why don't those assholes make it a neck-through as it was meant to be?


Henry Juszkiewicz at the helm? *Never mind.


-drh