butyrate color (pigment)

[clown_luthier]

where to buy pigment for CAB like on this beautiful OTPG bobbins?



thanx guys

[jonson]

They are from the Uk and prob takes quite a bit of searching to get the right colours.

[clown_luthier]

They are from the Uk and prob takes quite a bit of searching to get the right colours.

Thanx, do you maybe know where to buy any pigment that can be used in butyrate? are this normal pigments for plastic?

[copperheadroads]

watch this . it might answer you question
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[belwar]

I actually phoned Evan and asked if he would sell some of that dye. They said no (fair enough!). I love the SD pickups, and the people there.

You do require special dye for butyrate, and there is a minimum, and while it will last 10+ years, it's not like its going to cost $25000. It usually about a 100lb minimum at like $10 / lb.

What you need to do is get a sample of the color you want and give it to the molder. It also depends on what you are going for.. Faded white? Cream? White? I dont think there really IS a right color. You have to choose something you like. For example (to me) the allparts stuff is too pink, the Seymour Duncan stuff is too white. etc.

[JGundry]

CAB can be colored to match whatever sample you give the place doing the color match.

[jonson]

That's the one. Have your sample to start with, you can't do it from pics and get the molder to match it.

[clown_luthier]

That's the one. Have your sample to start with, you can't do it from pics and get the molder to match it.

Thanx, i have OTPG rings, i think color on bobbins is identical on bobbins and on rings, right?
i'm quite sure material is same, cab.

i have injection molder, but not material, i can buy material (cab) in granulas and in natural color, so i now must buy only pigment (dye)

do you think i can use dye for ABS and mix it with CAB?

[Possum]

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Why are you trying to copy another company's coloring? Why not the real thing?

[clown_luthier]

Why are you trying to copy another company's coloring? Why not the real thing?

unfortunately, i don't have access to a real thing
i think otpg and shed's are closest to a real thing, right?

[clown_luthier]

do you think i can use dye for ABS and mix it with CAB?

i think this is not possible, i find out that dye (pigment) must be organic

[Possum]

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Well look at the OTPG bobbins compared to the real bobbins I posted, the OTPG's are more yellowish. Yeah they are physically accurate bobbins. Are you making butyrate bobbins?

[clown_luthier]

Well look at the OTPG bobbins compared to the real bobbins I posted, the OTPG's are more yellowish. Yeah they are physically accurate bobbins. Are you making butyrate bobbins?

i think i will try to make a few prototypes in near future, maybe early next year

i have a great friend on cnc machine who can make me a mold, and a neighbour with a injection molder i think i have found souce for butyrate granules and now i'm waiting one lab to make me dye for prototypes

[JGundry]

The cream color of an old PAF bobbin varies because the plastic yellows over time and that yellowing varies with how much light exposure the plastic gets over time and how much bar room scuz colors it over time. You really cannot say that is one color that is correct.

I'm sure they will correct me if I'm wrong but I think Bare Knuckle, OTP and Spence all use bobbins made from the same mold. They are easy to spot because the edge radius is too large for a PAF bobbin, although they do look very nice. I would bet that the OTP bobbin pictured has been tinted further with some sort of dye or colorant even after it was molded.

[LtKojak]

I actually phoned Evan and asked if he would sell some of that dye. They said no (fair enough!). I love the SD pickups, and the people there.

I think if you ask to buy their butyrate bobbins, they would.

Another phone call...?