p-90 and paf monting screws?

[clown_luthier]

where do you guys buy screws like this in 1000+ quantity for reasonable price?

[belwar]

I think I have a boat load of the screws (humbucker) that I dont want. I went out of my way to get the flat heads and then I realized it was just silly. Aparently I cant hold a flat screw driver correctly to save my life. Now I use phillips head screws and im as happy as a pig in shit.

I'll sell them too you for what I paid for them if you want em. I gotta dig up an invoice though. The springs I just buy from stewmac. The work well and are not too expensive.

as for the P-90's screws, i havent found a good source yet. a friend has been nice enough to give me a bag full.
bel.

[Joe Gwinn]

I think I have a boat load of the screws (humbucker) that I dont want. I went out of my way to get the flat heads and then I realized it was just silly. Apparently I cant hold a flat screw driver correctly to save my life.

Accurately made screwdriver tips are important, tips that fit the screw heads tightly, especially with slotted screws. I'm partial to Wiha screwdrivers.

[Possum]

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Mojo has both bucker adjusting screws, ring mount screws and P90 soap bar and dog ear mounting screws. I've used the soap bar screws, they are OK, I stripped a few heads out but just buy extra and use a good screw driver that fits right.
Mojo Pickup Parts P-90 Soap Bar Mounting Screws Nickel / 10

[clown_luthier]

Mojo has both bucker adjusting screws, ring mount screws and P90 soap bar and dog ear mounting screws. I've used the soap bar screws, they are OK, I stripped a few heads out but just buy extra and use a good screw driver that fits right.
Mojo Pickup Parts P-90 Soap Bar Mounting Screws Nickel / 10

Thanx Dave,

do you think this screws look vintage correct?
take a look at my pic of p90 screws above

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Probably not, but I've not seen real soap bar mounting screws before, but finding ANY soap bar mounting screws isn't easy. I think WD Music has them too...

[David Schwab]

I think I have a boat load of the screws (humbucker) that I dont want. I went out of my way to get the flat heads and then I realized it was just silly. Aparently I cant hold a flat screw driver correctly to save my life. Now I use phillips head screws and im as happy as a pig in shit.

I can't imagine for the life of me why anyone uses slot head screws for anything!

I also got a bag of phillips head humbucker height screws and have been switching them out on all my guitars.

[David Schwab]

do you think this screws look vintage correct?

Unless you are trying to make a counterfeit pickup, or plan on sending them back in time to sell to Gibson, who cares?

This whole pseudo vintage fad is just stupid.

[clown_luthier]

Unless you are trying to make a counterfeit pickup, or plan on sending them back in time to sell to Gibson, who cares?

This whole pseudo vintage fad is just stupid.

Thanx guys, i know it is stupid, but i love vintage stuff more than modern
but that's just me

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I don't think I'd call it a fad. When I was 17 in 1967 vintage Gibson stuff was already considered prize stuff and I remember hearing a rumor back then that vintage Les Paul 'burst could cost as much as FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS! Man, that was crazy! It wasn't like anyone was trying to "recapture their youth" because we were still in high school. Personally I could give a rat's butt for what kind of mounting screws I use, but there are good reasons to pay attention. Vintage soap bar mounting screws were magnetic and became pole pieces when the pickup was mounted, throwing another 2 pieces of steel in there has an effect. Stainless steel makes better screws but aren't magnetic. Personally I don't think anyone has really improved over PAFs, P90's, P13's, Kleenex box pickups, etc. etc. There are very few who take the immense amount of time to figure out how to make these things accurately these days.

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WD music has P90 mount screws but no photo:
* WD Music Products - P90 PICKUP MOUNTING NICKEL ( 100 )

[LtKojak]

Personally I don't think anyone has really improved over PAFs, P90's, P13's.

It all depends in what do you mean by "improving"?

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Look at it this way, what kind of pickups sell the most every year, all the time? Its not Lace alumatones, EMGs, or Bill Lawrence stuff. What sells are traditional designs. Because they were just plain simple usually and just are very musical. 50 years from now they will still be the top selling pickups, even when laser pickups and optical stuff comes along. Same reason players mostly want tube amps. Bass players are maybe less traditional than guitar players maybe, even in the blues scene I see guys showing up with weird 10 string basses and strangeness. The engineer designed gimmicky stuff doesn't stand the test of time usually. They think they are "better" meaning more efficient, reproducing the actual sound of the string etc. but thats not what players want to hear usually, hifi pickups aren't very popular. The vintage thing isn't a fad, its because that stuff just sounds good and always will. Same thing in amp world, boutique guys are mostly doing old Fender and Marshall designs, sometimes "improving" them and ending up with stuff that doesn't sound as good :-) My opinion, shoot me

[David Schwab]

Thanx guys, i know it is stupid, but i love vintage stuff more than modern
but that's just me

But.. you can never make a vintage pickup. It will always be modern. Unless you made it 50 years ago.

The look of a screw doesn't change the tone either.

You are being brain washed by the same hype machine that writes Gibson's ad copy.

[David Schwab]

Look at it this way, what kind of pickups sell the most every year, all the time? Its not Lace alumatones, EMGs, or Bill Lawrence stuff. What sells are traditional designs.

I'd like to see some numbers on that. You need to think of it this way, if you are looking at pickup sales as far as what's in a new guitar when you buy it, then I think you'll find a lot more Lace pickups in Fenders during a certain period than any third party pickups. Same goes with newer Fender or Gibson pickups. For a lot of people, they use what the guitar came with, and those are vintage designs. But they didn't have a choice when buying the guitar. It's like what OS is on your new PC?

Now if you are looking at after-market pickups, I'd wager that EMG sells a whole lot of pickups. More than any single boutique maker.

And even with humbuckers... sure, you see two coils with more-or-less the same dimensions are Gibson, since they were all replacement pickups for Gibsons, but they aren't all wound like vintage pickups.

And once again, look at all the Schecter, Ibanez and ESP guitars on the market with EMGs and DiMarzio type pickups.

I think the vintage clone market is much smaller than you think.

The real disturbing part of the quasi vintage fad is the impact on music. You get players that think there is only one tone that comes from a given brand of guitar based one the tone of a hand full of players on old records. And this player will think he can't play unless he has the gear his hero used. And we get stuck listing to the same music regurgitated over and over again!

I'm sure few here will agree with me on that, but that's my opinion. It's nice to see that guitar is so popular these days, but the truly talented are over shadowed by the copy cats. But I guess that's how it always is.