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  • #46
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    I would think the angle you'd use with a humbucker would be limited to how far you can turn it before poles start to go outside and miss being under the strings. You could probably go more extreme angle if you slide the coils offset like the nighthawk bridge, are you making a trapezoidal design?
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    • #47
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      I think if you look again closely at this photo you'll see that traditional angles just look better...
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      • #48
        Those angles are too exaggerated.
        It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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        • #49
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          • #50
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            Here's the ultimate compromise, I always thought these were one beautiful guitar. I scored a set of NOS V2 pickups on Ebay several years ago, very unique pickup, angles both way...

            http://www.vintageguitars.org.uk/gra...onFlyingV2.jpg
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Possum View Post
              I always thought these were one beautiful guitar. http://www.vintageguitars.org.uk/gra...onFlyingV2.jpg
              Then you either need glasses or grammar lessons, because there are two guitars in that picture. JK

              Originally posted by Possum View Post
              I would think the angle you'd use with a humbucker would be limited to how far you can turn it before poles start to go outside and miss being under the strings. You could probably go more extreme angle if you slide the coils offset like the nighthawk bridge, are you making a trapezoidal design?
              I don't want to speak for belwar but I think once he's settled on an angle, he's wanting to offset the bobbins like the nighthawk or a Tyler:
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              • #52
                Originally posted by frankfalbo View Post
                I don't want to speak for belwar but I think once he's settled on an angle, he's wanting to offset the bobbins like the nighthawk or a Tyler:
                Tyler Guitars - High Output
                Well in this case you can speak for me, because thats exactly what I intend to do. just dont put any stupid words in my mouth.. I have enough of them coming out on my own.

                I found a few pictures online of what I *think* is the original frankenstrat. Though with the interweb you never know. The wikipedia shot is so low res that it was hard to get a measurement off of, but it came out with an average of about 4.5-5 Degrees. I found one higher resolution photo from the shoe dispute which read between 7.6 and 8.1 degrees.

                Since i've got a PAF drawn already, and the spacing of that floyd, I might try rotating in a cad program and see what it ends up at to line up the E and E. Hmm..

                Either that or just stop worrying about it, pick a number and go with it.

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                • #53
                  ... I should also mention that it wont *look* trapezoidal because it will have a rectangular cover. i.e the insides will look trapezoidable but the outside will look like a slightly oversized bucker.

                  I thing the trapezoid looks funny (like frank), so a rectangular cover will correct it.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by belwar View Post
                    I found a few pictures online of what I *think* is the original frankenstrat. Though with the interweb you never know. The wikipedia shot is so low res that it was hard to get a measurement off of, but it came out with an average of about 4.5-5 Degrees. I found one higher resolution photo from the shoe dispute which read between 7.6 and 8.1 degrees.
                    Note how the pickup was rotated so one of the outside poles on each coil caught an E string. That was the only reason for him rotating the pickup, since the pickup was too narrow for that bridge.

                    If you make a pickup spaced for the bridge, you don't need to angle it, unless you want to do it for tone or looks.

                    It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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                    • #55
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                      I done thinked 'dat dem 'dere fowling V 2's was sum relly nize pees of wud. Even if'n dere was too of 'dem, and yep I gots bugers on my spaktekles and iz hard t' see past my noze. I'm uh thinkin' Eddee Von Haylin prably jess stuk dat pickop in hiz gitar with sum bubbul gum and it got stuk 'dere 'dat way. He shure kin play gud, specially Free Burd wuz gud. Loosk lak sumwun shatted in his middul pickop whole, kanda dissguztin..
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                      • #56
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                        Muh sisster said she wint out onna dayte with Frankphallbo last year and she gived me pitchers of him an' his bruther:
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                        • #57
                          I don't want to speak for belwar but I think once he's settled on an angle, he's wanting to offset the bobbins
                          Originally posted by belwar View Post
                          Well in this case you can speak for me, because thats exactly what I intend to do.
                          It might be interesting to try one that's not offset and see if you can bracket each string a bit. String bending/signal drop discussion here

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                          • #58
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                            Hey Frank, BTW I've been meaning to tell you, THANK GOD SEYMOUR FINALLY HIRED A REAL GRAPHIC DESIGNER! The new website is fabulous and the new ads are too. Years too late, but better now than never.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Possum View Post
                              Muh sisster said she wint out onna dayte with Frankphallbo last year and she gived me pitchers of him an' his bruther:
                              http://eddiebear.files.wordpress.com...1/ugly_men.jpg
                              Im the guy on the right in that picture. Franks on the left. As you can clearly tell he's jealous of my ears. Course I do need to change my shirt.

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                              • #60
                                Alright, well I guess its time to move from Theory to Practice. So i've drawn up the basic design im going to use. Im going to make the top and bottom with forbon, and use steel poles with a bar magnet. I'll thread the inside of one of the sets of poles for standard humbucker screws. I angled it at 10 degrees and a strings sit dead perfect above the center of each pole.. The string spacing is different on each bobbin.

                                It's either going to be super cool, or super sucky. I guess I wont know till I try! So tommorow I'll cnc the forbon, and monday i'll make some poles.

                                ... and before you ask, yes there are holes in the slugs and they are there on purpose, and yes I went to all the work of making the wire hole square. Why? Thats just how I roll.

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