Does anyone have a schematic or a picture of 4 conductor wiring? I am wondering where to put the grounds. I have the silver wire to the frame but I don't know if I should put the finish of the north side to the frame as well.
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Originally posted by sunburst kid View PostDoes anyone have a schematic or a picture of 4 conductor wiring? I am wondering where to put the grounds. I have the silver wire to the frame but I don't know if I should put the finish of the north side to the frame as well.
most of us I think use the gibson color code if your building your own pickup.
Good Luck
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Originally posted by big_teee View Postmost of us I think use the gibson color code if your building your own pickup.It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by sunburst kid View PostDoes anyone have a schematic or a picture of 4 conductor wiring? I am wondering where to put the grounds. I have the silver wire to the frame but I don't know if I should put the finish of the north side to the frame as well.It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by David Schwab View PostI use the DiMarzio color codes. I figure they did it first so...
I like Red to be Hot, Black to be Return or grd.
In phone offices the bare would only be grounded on one end.
That would make it a shield.
Tieing it down on both ends makes it a conductor, (possibly for noise).
I've tried it both ways in a guitar, and not much difference.
Later,
Terry"If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
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I have my own color code and have a chart based on the Duncan one that I give to the client so they can interface to other brands.
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Originally posted by big_teee View PostI'm an old telephone man, and done lots of auto work.
I like Red to be Hot, Black to be Return or grd.
In phone offices the bare would only be grounded on one end.
That would make it a shield.
Tieing it down on both ends makes it a conductor, (possibly for noise).
I've tried it both ways in a guitar, and not much difference.
Later,
Terry
I also think one less pickup maker using something totally different can't hurt. if everyone used the same colors it would make life easier. I mostly deal with Duncan and Dimarzio pickups when Im doing repairs. Then you have Gibson (who buys aftermarket Gibson pickups? I have not seen a single one), and Schaller, who doesn't even use the same colors!
So I settled on the Dimarzio colors which also matches EMG-HZ pickups.
It's less confusing for me.It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by David Schwab View PostI always remember green being ground, and black being hot. I think red being hot and green being ground makes sense though... red is a hot color, and the ground is often green.
I also think one less pickup maker using something totally different can't hurt. if everyone used the same colors it would make life easier. I mostly deal with Duncan and Dimarzio pickups when Im doing repairs. Then you have Gibson (who buys aftermarket Gibson pickups? I have not seen a single one), and Schaller, who doesn't even use the same colors!
So I settled on the Dimarzio colors which also matches EMG-HZ pickups.
It's less confusing for me.
AC black is your hot, white is Neutral, and green is ground
In DC Red is Hot Black is Return (Grded)
There usually no green in DC
Sometimes Bare or Green for Frame Ground.
Anyway just what ever you can remember, and get used to.
To me the Gibson colors make more sense.
Terry"If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
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Originally posted by big_teee View PostTo me the Gibson colors make more sense.It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by David Schwab View Post...DiMarzio pretty much started the 4 conductor wiring thing with the Dual Sound Humbucker...
Just for nostalgia, here's a (bad) scan of the actual instruction sheet that came with my Dual-Sound back in '78:
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Originally posted by RedHouse View PostYep, and I was one of those who bought one back in the day. It was a "Super Distortion" with 4-conductor wire.
I just looked up Alex Axe and it seems the bodies and necks were made by Gretsch. They weren't DiMarzios, but looked just like them. DiMarzio worked for LoBue at one time.
Last edited by David Schwab; 08-06-2010, 02:35 PM.It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein
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