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    I have a spool of wire that is coated in solderable single film insulation. Is this alright for pickup winding? It's supposed to be good up to 180 degrees celcius, but how would it handle the process of winding? Is it flimsy, or durable?

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    Originally posted by Paulkstadden View Post
    I have a spool of wire that is coated in solderable single film insulation. Is this alright for pickup winding? It's supposed to be good up to 180 degrees celcius, but how would it handle the process of winding? Is it flimsy, or durable?
    To get any kind of an answer, you might consider providing a bit more information.

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    • #3
      My lack of knowledge about it would kinda be why I'm asking. It's 46 AWG, and the type of insulation is Single Film, and it can withstand temps up to 180 Celcius. I've tried looking up info on Single Film, seeing if it's been used for guitar pickups, but it seems that everyone uses Plain Enamel, Poly, and the like. I wanted to find out if anyone has ever wound a pickup with this particular type of insulation, and wanted to know if it were durable enough to handle the stress of winding.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Paulkstadden View Post
        My lack of knowledge about it would kinda be why I'm asking. It's 46 AWG, and the type of insulation is Single Film, and it can withstand temps up to 180 Celcius. I've tried looking up info on Single Film, seeing if it's been used for guitar pickups, but it seems that everyone uses Plain Enamel, Poly, and the like. I wanted to find out if anyone has ever wound a pickup with this particular type of insulation, and wanted to know if it were durable enough to handle the stress of winding.
        Who made it? What is its model name? Etc?

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        • #5
          Certainly, here you are: 1-Spool of AWG 46, Colored Natural Esterimide taurimide HT Single Film insulated, 180C solderable copper magnet wire. Made by Scanwire Corp. I'm afraid I don't have a model number, as it seems the company has no website.

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          • #6
            46 is hard to work with....You can barely see it. You may need a special felt for that stuff. something super slippery. Powder and fingertips.......can be done, but if you blink wrong....shit. I'll not comment on my first run ins with 46, as I broke some of my own stuff and a nice handcarved wooden box, and some other stuff. Well, I Guess I'll comment a little....
            BTW, Welcome to the forum Paul!

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            • #7
              One way to find out.....

              Well, since you already have the spool, there's only one way to find out if the wire is usable for pickups. Try winding a coil. If by some chance you are successful without breakage and you get the tone that sounds ok to you, then that should answer your question. It looks like nobody in the forum has any experience with the type of wire you have. Otherwise, you would have been deluded with replies to your question.

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              • #8
                Alcatel = Scanwire Corp.?

                Originally posted by Paulkstadden View Post
                Certainly, here you are: 1-Spool of AWG 46, Colored Natural Esterimide taurimide HT Single Film insulated, 180C solderable copper magnet wire. Made by Scanwire Corp. I'm afraid I don't have a model number, as it seems the company has no website.
                If the 1998 article is still correct, Scanwire was owned by Alcatel.
                http://ewweb.com/mag/electric_owns_whom_wire/

                That could be an old reel of wire. Alcatel now does business as Nexans.
                http://www.nexansenergy.com

                Nexans' equivalent 180C solderable modified polyester-imide base is NYTEMP-180.
                http://www.nexansenergy.com/metal/ma...und/ny180.html

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                • #9
                  Thank you all (and for the welcome, Nightwinder), that helps a bit. The reason I'm using such fine wire is that I am seeking to approximate the sound of Tony Iommi's old John Birch. More than that, I am trying to find out how the pickups are made so that I can keep making approximations for as many of my guitars as I need to. The only thing I know about the wire in those old John Birch Magnums is that it was "much finer than normal." Well, looking at the wire I have, I'd say it's quite fine, almost like cobwebs!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Paulkstadden View Post
                    Thank you all (and for the welcome, Nightwinder), that helps a bit. The reason I'm using such fine wire is that I am seeking to approximate the sound of Tony Iommi's old John Birch. More than that, I am trying to find out how the pickups are made so that I can keep making approximations for as many of my guitars as I need to. The only thing I know about the wire in those old John Birch Magnums is that it was "much finer than normal." Well, looking at the wire I have, I'd say it's quite fine, almost like cobwebs!
                    Good luck, man! Keeps us posted of developments.

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