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  • #31
    Contacting Andrew C

    Originally posted by NightWinder View Post
    +1 on the month notice. That is the best advice....On a dimes notice, is unlikely.....Preparation is best.
    He was on holiday for a short while and was buried in mail, send him another and he should get back to you. Put in the subject line, Pickups he should get right back to you

    Just pokin fun at ya Andrew

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    • #32
      Wanna bet?

      I emailed him looking for parts, I bought some samples, and when I wanted to make a 'real' order he wouldn't answer his emails. Still won't. Oh well.

      Ken
      www.angeltone.com

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      • #33
        Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
        Actually you could easily tool up for having parts injection molded for a lot less, and then the parts would cost very little after the initial tooling cost.
        Injection molding has been mentioned before, but I don't recall if the rough start-up costs were ever specified. Anyone have an idea? Experience?

        Jabs

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Jabs View Post
          Injection molding has been mentioned before, but I don't recall if the rough start-up costs were ever specified. Anyone have an idea? Experience?
          It depends on the part... the prices I've seen are between $1,500 and $3,000.
          That seems like a lot of money, but lets put it into perspective. I needed some pickup covers for EMG 40 sized bass soapbars. I found some covers, they were $3.50 each, and the minimum order was 200 pieces. That's $700 for generic covers! If I saved up some money and had them injection molded, after the initial tooling cost, each cover would be about $0.60, and would be exactly the way want.

          That setup cost is a killer though!
          It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


          http://coneyislandguitars.com
          www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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          • #35
            On the bright side, I just got an order filled and shipped from Guitar Jones in record time. About 1 week from order date to in my hands. Wolfe must've put the fear of God in them at NAMM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Zhangliqun View Post
              On the bright side, I just got an order filled and shipped from Guitar Jones in record time. About 1 week from order date to in my hands. Wolfe must've put the fear of God in them at NAMM.
              You're lucky. He's had my 50mm baseplates and humbucker mounting springs on backorder for about 4 months now. I emailed him today and he said he still is not sure when they will be in...but he'll let me know.

              Stan
              -Stan
              ...just transferring wire from one spool to another
              Stan Hinesley Pickups
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Zhangliqun View Post
                On the bright side, I just got an order filled and shipped from Guitar Jones in record time. About 1 week from order date to in my hands. Wolfe must've put the fear of God in them at NAMM.
                Serious? I doubt that. Perhaps he just had what you wanted.
                sigpic Dyed in the wool

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Jabs View Post
                  Injection molding has been mentioned before, but I don't recall if the rough start-up costs were ever specified. Anyone have an idea? Experience?

                  Jabs
                  Look, unless you're planning to conquer the world with your pickups don't bother. The cost of making a machine or buying one is minimal compared to the financial ruin you'll encounter when getting moulds made. On the other hand why not make some formers from aluminium or car body filler and vacuum form the covers. This is what I do when I need something that's not available off the shelf. It's a cheap and cheerful, cost effective, rewarding.
                  No need to get all tied up in fantasies about churning out thousands of parts because it seems like nobody here will stump up any cash for them.
                  sigpic Dyed in the wool

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Spence View Post
                    Look, unless you're planning to conquer the world with your pickups don't bother. The cost of making a machine or buying one is minimal compared to the financial ruin you'll encounter when getting moulds made.
                    Well if you are really starting a business, it's all part of your startup costs. I certainly spent more money setting up a machine shop to make guitars when I started out! The irony is I wanted a 6 string bass, and couldn't afford any of the ones I would want, so I figured I'd build my own. After buying a band saw, jointer, thickness plainer, belt sander, air compressor, routers, etc., I could have had a nice bass made for me for less!

                    But the basses I made for myself are perfect for me... now the pickups are perfect for those basses. I wouldn't go into business making guitar pickups... the market is too saturated. Unless you do something really different. But I have a nice niche to fill, so I might actually take out a business loan and get my parts made and sell some pickups...

                    Originally posted by Spence View Post
                    On the other hand why not make some formers from aluminium or car body filler and vacuum form the covers. This is what I do when I need something that's not available off the shelf. It's a cheap and cheerful, cost effective, rewarding.
                    That's how Dingwall makes his pickup covers. But he said they lack detail, so he's going to mold the pickups instead, the way Bartolini does. I might go that way, but I like having cases better.

                    Originally posted by Spence View Post
                    No need to get all tied up in fantasies about churning out thousands of parts because it seems like nobody here will stump up any cash for them.
                    You mean making parts for other pickup makers? I'm trying to make parts for me! Screw you guys! I bet if someone came up with the parts everyone here (except me) seems to need people would buy them.
                    It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


                    http://coneyislandguitars.com
                    www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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                    • #40
                      is it me or the price have change at allparts US website?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
                        I bet if someone came up with the parts everyone here (except me) seems to need people would buy them.
                        I know I would.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Zhangliqun View Post
                          I know I would.
                          I would too, if it was something I could use. I just meant I'm working with non standard parts...

                          Now if I could find a source for dual rail "single coil" pickup parts, that would be cool.
                          It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


                          http://coneyislandguitars.com
                          www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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                          • #43
                            I get requests for those from time to time. But where to find those tiny bobbins...

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
                              I would too, if it was something I could use. I just meant I'm working with non standard parts...

                              Now if I could find a source for dual rail "single coil" pickup parts, that would be cool.
                              Why not make your own. How hard can it be?
                              sigpic Dyed in the wool

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