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[copperheadroads]

Gibson Double White and Zebra PAF's - Original PAF MINT - eBay (item 260729346389 end time Feb-05-11 06:26:47 PST)

[FunkyKikuchiyo]

I'm by no means an expert on PAFs, but shouldn't the bobbin mounting screws be of the same color on those two? And, if they've never been opened, how does he know they are zebra and double white? Maybe there are legitimate answers to that, but I can't figure it out.

And, what is with him saying the original owner put them away for 40 years because "he knew they were something special"...? Someone prior to 1971 knew they'd fetch phenomenal vintage value? How many people do you know kept their Mickey Mantle rookie card instead of putting it in the spokes of their bike because they knew Antiques Roadshow would be a hit in about 50 years? Sounds like a story to me.

[LtKojak]

Even if they really are original PAFs, at that price only somebody with much more money than brains could buy'em.

Anyway, when Duncan announced the Zephyr p'ups at a $ 1,200.00, a product made with REAL precious materials and REAL ground-breaking technology, the outrage produced just make me smile. Using the same measure as poor Seymour was judged, this guy should be crucified head down and burned alive at the stake!

People are strange...

[SonnyW]

I'm by no means an expert on PAFs, but shouldn't the bobbin mounting screws be of the same color on those two? And, if they've never been opened, how does he know they are zebra and double white? Maybe there are legitimate answers to that, but I can't figure it out.

It is possible to determine the bobbin colors without opening the covers by removing one of the mounting screws, and looking in the hole with a bright light or at the bits of bobbin that remain on the mounting screw.... It is also possible to open the covers and touch them back up again carefully with a soldering iron so it can't be easily detected once the solder oxidizes a little. So you just have to take it on faith that he knows they haven't been opened.

That said, I am pretty sure I have seen this set offered before. Same deal same story, same max for sale. Probably didn't sell because even if they are the greatest vintage PAF's ever it is still more than 3x the going rate. And the going rate is way too steep to start with.

[big_teee]

What about the acclaimed DCR?
He says 8.08, and 8.82k DCR on the Other.
I am definitely no authority on PAFs, but I thought they were a lot less DCR than that.
Sounds more like a BurstBucker 2 & 3.
What do you guys that really know PAFs think about the DCR?
Later,
Terry

[Tom Phillips]

"... are obviously in MINT condition. .... Stickers are in perfect condition."
Another person who doesn't know the proper use of the term "mint condition" or the meaning of the word "perfect."
"Insurance offered at cost if the purchaser is interested." Well that seals the deal!

[David Schwab]

This is a once in a lifetime opportunity.

I thought a sucker was born every minute?

No pickups are worth $12,999.

[Plucky]

if they've never been opened, how does he know they are zebra and double white?

By removing the Bobbin mounting screws and having his pet eagle look inside.

[trevorus]

Does it at least include the guitar?

[tubeswell]

Should include a free car at that price

[FunkyKikuchiyo]

I saw the DCR and was a tad suspicious myself. If the covers HAVE come off, then I'd say that they did a good job re-attaching them. It is clearly done by a professional, if it has been done at all. When I've done cover replacements they always look clean and original, but the solder joint is typically slightly larger the original so as to cover the footprint of the first joint. Given how many hacks are out there, I'd say they've never come off. Most new pickups don't have joints that look that clean.

I thought removing the mounting screws might tell you the color of the bobbin, but it seems like it would hit or miss. Does it work consistently?

The price is shocking, but it isn't the most absurd part to me. Let's face it, a day will come (maybe not in our lifetimes) when PAFs WILL be worth that much. Call it crazy, but that is how these markets work. It is that he isn't offering much in the way of proof of authenticity.

[David Schwab]

The price is shocking, but it isn't the most absurd part to me. Let's face it, a day will come (maybe not in our lifetimes) when PAFs WILL be worth that much. Call it crazy, but that is how these markets work. It is that he isn't offering much in the way of proof of authenticity.

They wont be worth that much, but they may sell for that much. That's because of scarcity, not because they are any better than a Duncan Antiquity.

Plus no one even knows what this set of pickups sounds like. They may sound mediocre at best. Plenty of them are nothing special.

[FunkyKikuchiyo]

No arguments from me about sell price versus actual worth - just stating an opinion that 1950s-1960s lutherie mystique will only increase with time, and the number of units on the market will only decrease.

Gretsch is a great example. I remember looking on eBay for an old Gretsch because the vintage ones, unless you were really going for the fanciest ones, were cheaper than the new ones. Get a few endorsements in there, and now they are obscene.

Once an instrument reaches a certain monteary value, it loses its value as an instrument. People are too paranoid to ever play them, and they become museum pieces. The exception is something like the vintage bowed instrument world. Most professionals can only afford their own instruments through grants, or they are on loan. That isn't a very appealing instance to me, either.

[belwar]

You thought the $12000 PAF's were bad.

What about this?

1957 Gibson Cream M-69 PAF Pickup Surrounds...RARE!!! - eBay (item 220662032274 end time Mar-27-11 21:12:21 PDT)

[copperheadroads]

I bet you get some magic tone with those ........OMG