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  • #16
    I do vaguely recall seeing someone doing a similar thing with a jazz bass pickup. Sounded rather okay, though, with no phasing effects.
    Pickup prototype checklist: [x] FR4 [x] Cu AWG 42 [x] Neo magnets [x] Willpower [ ] Time - Winding suspended due to exams.

    Originally posted by David Schwab
    Then you have neos... which is a fuzzy bunny wrapped in barbed wire.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Stealth View Post
      I do vaguely recall seeing someone doing a similar thing with a jazz bass pickup. Sounded rather okay, though, with no phasing effects.
      Respectfully, Are You sure it didn't have 2 Bobbins.
      T
      "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
      Terry

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      • #18
        I will post as soon as I find the thread. It was posted on TB, and I usually either download or bookmark weirdness like that.

        Edit: Can't find it in bookmarks. Will try digging through downloaded pickup photos.
        Last edited by Stealth; 11-01-2011, 02:26 AM.
        Pickup prototype checklist: [x] FR4 [x] Cu AWG 42 [x] Neo magnets [x] Willpower [ ] Time - Winding suspended due to exams.

        Originally posted by David Schwab
        Then you have neos... which is a fuzzy bunny wrapped in barbed wire.

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        • #19
          There are times when I think it would cool to have a computer program that would allow me to simulate pickup designs. You would select different parameters for a particular concept and click "run simulation." The result would be an audio representation of the concept based on variety of amp configurations. Maybe someone will come up with an iPhone app that will do this! Of course that would take the fun out of prototyping an idea.

          I'll build this pickup in the next day or two and see what happens. Of course, I'll post my results here.
          Chris Monck
          eguitarplans.com

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          • #20
            Chris,
            My guess is:
            All the odd harmonics form one side will cancel out the dissonant harmonics from the other side. The center of your pickup will create an intense magnetic resonance that will excite the pleasing even order harmonics and generate sub-octave cascading tone waterfalls that will inter-modulate with the ferrous strings overhead!

            Good luck! Let me know if I am right
            Ethan

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            • #21
              Originally posted by CRU JONES View Post
              Chris,
              My guess is:
              All the odd harmonics form one side will cancel out the dissonant harmonics from the other side. The center of your pickup will create an intense magnetic resonance that will excite the pleasing even order harmonics and generate sub-octave cascading tone waterfalls that will inter-modulate with the ferrous strings overhead!

              Good luck! Let me know if I am right
              Ethan
              WHOA!

              Somebody get me a tissue, I just made a mess...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                Respectfully, Are You sure it didn't have 2 Bobbins.
                T
                Right, they have two bobbins:

                It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


                http://coneyislandguitars.com
                www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by tonedeciple View Post
                  I'll build this pickup in the next day or two and see what happens. Of course, I'll post my results here.
                  The the best thing to do.

                  I'm also guessing that you will get a thin mostly out-of-phase tone. If you think about it, it is like two coils wound the same way with opposite magnetic polarity. You can simulate that with a humbucker by wiring the two coils in phase.
                  It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


                  http://coneyislandguitars.com
                  www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by CRU JONES View Post
                    Chris,
                    My guess is:
                    All the odd harmonics form one side will cancel out the dissonant harmonics from the other side. The center of your pickup will create an intense magnetic resonance that will excite the pleasing even order harmonics and generate sub-octave cascading tone waterfalls that will inter-modulate with the ferrous strings overhead!

                    Good luck! Let me know if I am right
                    Ethan
                    Of course this will depend on whether the pickup is generating the required 1.21 gigawatts to the flux capacitor
                    Chris Monck
                    eguitarplans.com

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by tonedeciple View Post
                      Of course this will depend on whether the pickup is generating the required 1.21 gigawatts to the flux capacitor
                      With the readings I'm getting on my PKE meter, that seems like a bad idea.

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                      • #26
                        Okay, so I wound the prototype and placed it into my mule guitar. It worked. The signal was a tad weak and thin, but not as bad as I thought it would be. As far sounding out of phase, it doesn't sound that way to my ears. To me out of phase sounds like Peter Green. This pickup doesn't sound that way at all. It sounds more like a slightly quieter Strat bridge pickup. What is unusual are the low strings. E,A and D sound like they have a touch of delay, like two guitars playing the same note as almost the same time. I'll try and record a sample for you to hear and comment on.
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                        Chris Monck
                        eguitarplans.com

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tonedeciple View Post
                          Okay, so I wound the prototype and placed it into my mule guitar. It worked. The signal was a tad weak and thin, but not as bad as I thought it would be. As far sounding out of phase, it doesn't sound that way to my ears. To me out of phase sounds like Peter Green. This pickup doesn't sound that way at all. It sounds more like a slightly quieter Strat bridge pickup. What is unusual are the low strings. E,A and D sound like they have a touch of delay, like two guitars playing the same note as almost the same time. I'll try and record a sample for you to hear and comment on.
                          [ATTACH=CONFIG]15917[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]15918[/ATTACH]
                          Cool!
                          For the Grins try taking one set of Pole Screws out and see if it changes the Sound.
                          Also What DCR did you end up with?
                          Terry
                          "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                          Terry

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by tonedeciple View Post
                            Okay, so I wound the prototype and placed it into my mule guitar. It worked. The signal was a tad weak and thin, but not as bad as I thought it would be. As far sounding out of phase, it doesn't sound that way to my ears. To me out of phase sounds like Peter Green. This pickup doesn't sound that way at all. It sounds more like a slightly quieter Strat bridge pickup. What is unusual are the low strings. E,A and D sound like they have a touch of delay, like two guitars playing the same note as almost the same time. I'll try and record a sample for you to hear and comment on.
                            This should be like two humbucker coils connected with the wrong polarity, not two pickups a few inches apart. Thin and weak is the right description. Taking out a row of screws should fill in the bass, and thus increase the signal level.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mike Sulzer View Post
                              This should be like two humbucker coils connected with the wrong polarity, not two pickups a few inches apart. Thin and weak is the right description. Taking out a row of screws should fill in the bass, and thus increase the signal level.
                              That's exactly how it turned out, though not as bad as I thought it would. Kind of an interesting experiment.
                              Chris Monck
                              eguitarplans.com

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                              • #30
                                Here's a link to a sound sample:

                                http://www.highlineguitars.com/coil_sample.m4a
                                Chris Monck
                                eguitarplans.com

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