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  • Bobbin Position - affect on output?

    Hi, I have made a number of humbuckers, but have been experimenting with a new design. All sounds good on it, but it's a bit weak on output.

    Could bobbins not being the same height have an affect on output? What if they aren't aligned top to bottom? - one higher than the other?

    Any other comments or help is appreciated!

  • #2
    A taller bobbin a should have a brighter tone than a standard height bobbin ,but with the same number of turns as a shorter bobbin ,It will use less wire & can sound thin
    "UP here in the Canada we shoot things we don't understand"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by copperheadroads View Post
      A taller bobbin a should have a brighter tone than a standard height bobbin ,but with the same number of turns as a shorter bobbin ,It will use less wire & can sound thin
      Thank you. What if I have two different height bobbins on a humbucker?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TheGrateOz View Post
        Thank you. What if I have two different height bobbins on a humbucker?
        I've made them that way, but I Shim the shorter one on the bottom so they are level on top.
        My Hybrid Bucker that has one blade and one screw bobbin is that way.
        T
        "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
        Terry

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        • #5
          Here's a picture of that one.
          The Screw bobbin is shorter.
          Click image for larger version

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          B_T
          "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
          Terry

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          • #6
            Originally posted by big_teee View Post
            Here's a picture of that one.
            The Screw bobbin is shorter.
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            B_T
            Looks pretty much the same as mine. Mine measures 14.3K across the 2 bobbins. Just cant figure out why this thing is weak...sounds good, just weak.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TheGrateOz View Post
              Looks pretty much the same as mine. Mine measures 14.3K across the 2 bobbins. Just cant figure out why this thing is weak...sounds good, just weak.
              Mine is 2 different gauges, and is about 13.5k.
              It is sure not weak by any means.
              Did you use a shim between the magnet and the blade bobbin.
              a regular magnet is not wide enough and you have to make a steel shim.
              If you don't it would probably be weak.
              T
              "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
              Terry

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              • #8
                I you think it's weak .do you have the magnet charged ?
                "UP here in the Canada we shoot things we don't understand"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                  Mine is 2 different gauges, and is about 13.5k.
                  It is sure not weak by any means.
                  Did you use a shim between the magnet and the blade bobbin.
                  a regular magnet is not wide enough and you have to make a steel shim.
                  If you don't it would probably be weak.
                  T
                  The steel shim!!! ahhh....off to the hardware store....crossing my fingers

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TheGrateOz View Post
                    The steel shim!!! ahhh....off to the hardware store....crossing my fingers
                    Glad I could help.
                    It doesn't take much Thickness.
                    Another option is a small piece of soft steel wire, like the old baling wire.
                    Something that fits snug in between the length of the magnet, and one bobbin.
                    On my hybrid I put the magnet against the bobbin with the most wire, and shim the lesser bobbin.
                    Good Luck,
                    Terry
                    "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                    Terry

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                      Glad I could help.
                      It doesn't take much Thickness.
                      Another option is a small piece of soft steel wire, like the old baling wire.
                      Something that fits snug in between the length of the magnet, and one bobbin.
                      On my hybrid I put the magnet against the bobbin with the most wire, and shim the lesser bobbin.
                      Good Luck,
                      Terry
                      Thanks Big Tee, I'll let you know after i get her installed tonight.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TheGrateOz View Post
                        Thanks Big Tee, I'll let you know after i get her installed tonight.

                        That did it!! Thanks again, Big T!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TheGrateOz View Post
                          That did it!! Thanks again, Big T!
                          We need Sound clips.
                          What Magnets do you like In it.
                          I liked A8, C5, and A2.
                          Not a big A5 Fan.
                          B_T
                          "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                          Terry

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                          • #14
                            Need more coffee.

                            Misread title as "Bobbin Positron"
                            "Det var helt Texas" is written Nowegian meaning "that's totally Texas." When spoken, it means "that's crazy."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by salvarsan View Post
                              Need more coffee.

                              Misread title as "Bobbin Positron"
                              That sounds more like TOO MUCH coffee, actually.

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