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    Hi everybody,
    I'm looking forward to wind me a Tele bridge PU just for my own use. The magnets should be staggert and a 50/50 mix of alnico 2 and 5. Maybe Alnico 3 and 2, not sure yet. I'm very sound concerned as I'm playing great vintage instrument since over 30 years. I started to wind pick ups a long time ago but that was just occasionally for local musicians and for my own guitars. In all instances it was rewind jobs so I was using the existing bobbins and magnets.
    I've been lurking this place for a while but can't seem to figure which magnet source stocks the most authentic alnico magnets.
    Since the manufacturers are said to all have their own formula I'm somewhat dependent on what the experienced among you have to say on this.
    I've already spend a good portion of time reading but would entirely appreciate if you guys could point me to what possibly is a consensus in this forum.

    I was tempted to purchase the Stew Mac kits for a fast job as they, opposed to guitarpartsusa.com, clearly specify the Alnico type such as Alnico 2 and so forth. I'm aware that there are other magnet seller out there but I'm sure there's much more that I don't know. The Mojotone kits and parts look good to me.
    What's your opinion about the best magnet source? What you thinx?
    Thank you for your time.

  • #2
    Authentic? Did Fender use "Authentic" magnets. I figured they just bought from the cheapest supplier at the time. Well all the magnet suppliers listed around here will sell you something and you can probably make a great sounding pickup using any of them. Check the sources in the FAQ section. Since you are just building one pickup for yourself, why not just buy a dead "authentic" pickup off ebay?

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    • #3
      Also, Fender didn't mix magnets, so that wouldn't be "authentic". Just buy the right length rod magnets of the alnico grade you want.
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      • #4
        My question was probably misleading. I know what you're saying but those crappy lille magnets Fender used from his suppliers have made our ears getting used to what they were and still are sounding like on a vintage Tele.
        To be more precise, ...Since every magnet manufacturer probably cooks his own soup, I was trying to find out if there was any one of them around who was selling magnets with an identical or at least close alloy to those in the old days.

        From reading your comments I assume that you don#t think that the type of material involved in the mix substantially matters. Did i get it the right way? I personally don't know, but I was assuming it would matter. That's how my question came up. I wonder if anyone ever did an analysis of an old Fender magnet.

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        • #5
          The problem here is that quality control of the old alnico foundries wasn't all that great so there is significant variation from batch to batch. The same is probably still true today unless you are willing to pay top dollar for military grade magnets from the two name place that starts with an S. (I'm blanking on the name.)

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          • #6
            True, but since no big $$ on my side and even not knowing the manufacturer w. the mysterious big S, one can only experiment w. what different suppliers offer. I also wonder if there was a major change in the formula of ALNICO that all the manufacturers did follow after some period. If this wasn't the case, then I assume that all offered alnico magnets would be pretty much be the same stuff. That would make things easier for neurotic guys like me who try to dublicate vintage correct PUs .

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Telemachos View Post
              True, but since no big $$ on my side and even not knowing the manufacturer w. the mysterious big S, one can only experiment w. what different suppliers offer. I also wonder if there was a major change in the formula of ALNICO that all the manufacturers did follow after some period. If this wasn't the case, then I assume that all offered alnico magnets would be pretty much be the same stuff. That would make things easier for neurotic guys like me who try to dublicate vintage correct PUs .
              Unless you are willing to have magnets made, you use what is available.
              That is what all but a few on here do.
              You can make very good vintage pickups with what is available.
              On Rod magnets I have used Magnets from Mojo, ADFX, and Magnets from Magnetic hold.
              They all work good.
              T
              "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
              Terry

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Telemachos View Post
                Hi everybody,
                I'm looking forward to wind me a Tele bridge PU just for my own use. The magnets should be staggert and a 50/50 mix of alnico 2 and 5. Maybe Alnico 3 and 2, not sure yet. I'm very sound concerned as I'm playing great vintage instrument since over 30 years. I started to wind pick ups a long time ago but that was just occasionally for local musicians and for my own guitars. In all instances it was rewind jobs so I was using the existing bobbins and magnets.
                I've been lurking this place for a while but can't seem to figure which magnet source stocks the most authentic alnico magnets.
                Since the manufacturers are said to all have their own formula I'm somewhat dependent on what the experienced among you have to say on this.
                I've already spend a good portion of time reading but would entirely appreciate if you guys could point me to what possibly is a consensus in this forum.

                I was tempted to purchase the Stew Mac kits for a fast job as they, opposed to guitarpartsusa.com, clearly specify the Alnico type such as Alnico 2 and so forth. I'm aware that there are other magnet seller out there but I'm sure there's much more that I don't know. The Mojotone kits and parts look good to me.
                What's your opinion about the best magnet source? What you thinx?
                Thank you for your time.
                ALL STAR MAGNETICS stocks pickup magnets galore, in all configurations...
                Magnets | Allstar Magnetics
                They are also really nice people, who help me w / small orders...

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                • #9
                  Looks good guys. That is more than I was hoping to expect.
                  Thx bunches

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                  • #10
                    Rob Parr at Allstar magnetics is helpful and knows pickup magnets but the minimum order is $60 or $80. I'd start with Addiction FX on ebay and hope that they ship your order in a reasonable period of time. See the Addiction FX store thread via the search function.
                    I suspect you will never get any magnets for this project because you can't let go of preconceptions about the importance of magnets to the ultimate sound. At that point you will probably become a troll hoping that someone here will tell you the secret "ultimate truth" about pickup magnets. We indulge trolls here way to often so have at it.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by David King View Post
                      .....At that point you will probably become a troll hoping that someone here will tell you the secret "ultimate truth" about pickup magnets. We indulge trolls here way to often so have at it.
                      Thank you Sir

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