Anyone see the inside an original L6S pickup?

[jasyr]

I have a black L6S which i switched out the pickups many years ago and lost track of. All i really remember of them is they didnt have a lot of treble. (I only liked position #4, which i think is both pups on 90 degrees out of phase... mainly because it brightened things up.) I guess the pickups were darker so the mid-range tone control would be used and this would also suck out some of the darkness... at least that was my experience. But i never bonded with the mid-range control back in the old days. I really like using it with different pickups in it though... currently have a WCR Fillmore in the bridge and a Duncan Firebird in the neck & the rotary switch is usable in all positions.

So ya, has anyone ripped apart the original? I'd love to know how they were made. were they higher output? Blades inside?

thanks,

j

[David Schwab]

It was a typical Bill Lawrence Super Humbucker:



Had two slug bobbins, and three ceramic magnets.

[jasyr]

thanks! So they had 1 more magnet than a normal HB? & What would be the closest current in-production pup to it? A Wilde L-90 maybe?

cheers,
j

[big_teee]

That could be duplicated easy enough with standard parts.
use a regular base plate 2 slug bobbins a fullsized bar mag in the middle.
use a small ceramic on each side of the slugs.
All standard Mojo parts.
Wind the bobbins with 42-44 gauge wire.
build it any way you choose!
How many do you want?
Gibson has a ceramic version similar, don't remember the model.

[David Schwab]

thanks! So they had 1 more magnet than a normal HB? & What would be the closest current in-production pup to it? A Wilde L-90 maybe?

2 more magnets. Besides the standard central magnet, they had two flanking magnets.

The L-600 is probably closest in construction.

[ddlooping]

So what is this 3-magnets configuration supposed to bring to the table?

[jasyr]

cool... didnt the original Lawrence/Armstrong designed ADA6 (the clear Lucite guitar) Rock Treble pickup, the single-blade one, have 3 magnets as well?

[David Schwab]

The extra magnets are like having one stronger magnet. This was a popular thing to do when pickups were wound hot and you still wanted some treble response. Doesn't seemed to have worked with the L6-S pickups though. Gibson does the same thing with the Dirty Fingers.

Bill Lawrence designed some of the pickups for the Dan Armstrong guitar. Dan did some of the others, but Bill taught Dan about pickups when they worked together. Larry DiMarzio worked with Bill too at Dan's guitar shop.

[ddlooping]

Thanks, David.