Mojo ticked me off

[Joe Gwinn]

We are working on a better way to show dimensional drawings. We had lots of dimensional drawings online at one point and had to take many of them down because certain people were stealing them to get their own parts made. It's too bad a few dishonest folks can ruin it for everyone but like I said we are working on a different way to show the drawings that will give important dimensional information without giving too much detail.

It's the outline drawings that are published, not the manufacturing drawings.

As for people "stealing" the dimensions, this implies that one can own a set of dimensions, so if someone buys a few samples and takes a digital caliper to them, a crime has been committed.

Somehow, I don't think that the law sees it that way. Nor is it obvious how one can stop people from making measurements to ensure that a planned installation will work.

Nor do those mechanical industries worry about people stealing dimensions. In fact, publication of accurate outline and interface drawings is universal across industry. For instance, look at the SDP-SI website: https://sdp-si.com/eStore/Catalog

[J M Fahey]

Agree and add: *finished parts* dimensions are not "die" dimensions.

Metal "gives", has elasticity, and very important metal formulation and heat treatment data are not shown, so simple catalog/web page accurate dimensions are not enough.

So much so, that I suspect that many of the "not quite right" or simply piss poor copies are born that way.

As of the apparent desire (maybe I misunderstood) of having nickel *without* a copper base, the sad fact is that although nickel can be plated straight over steel, it has 2 problems:
1) somehow it's easy to get micro pores in it; oxygen/humidity/sweat get in, you start having tiny rust spots which will only increase along time.
Maybe this is what you want to hint at "aging"
2) electrodeposited nickel is harder than soft stamping grade steel , hits and bumps tend to crack it, rust eventually will appear.

I'm painfully aware of that, I stamp my own corner protectors, on my own dies, and found all those problems.
Doubly so, because by definition corner protectors *do* get bumped a lot, that's their job.

I had to grudginly accept my plater's suggestions and apply copper first, which doubled my cost.
I mean a real copper layer, not copper "flash" which is atoms thick.

Copper seals or avoids micropores and provides a plastic cushion between 2 harder metals, win win (except at your wallet ).

And in defense of Mojo and similar small user suppliers, remember that the *big* (Chinese/Korean/Taiwan/etc.) original parts makers, sell straight to, say, Samick and other makers by the tens or hundreds of thousands, and *they* own the game and couldn't care less about home or snall scale makers.
If it weren't for Mojo and similar, such parts simply wouldn't be easily available for reasonable cost.

I bet most (all?) of those Chinese EBay sellers are simply getting a few spare parts from the factory at which they (or cousin Cheng) work.
Try asking *them* for "more accurate" parts.

I'd say, "count your blessings", life might be MUCH harder for the smaller maker.

[zparts]

Have a great holiday weekend folks! Here's a laugh. Reminds me of the first guitar pickup I made back in shop class. LOL!

[Bill M]

You can add to the list of guitars that mojo covers don't fit.

Gibson CC guitars. CC#2, #6 , #11 for certain. Les paul standards and customs from 1980 to 1982.

I've been using alternate covers in the mean time as I do not want to be getting anymore returns do to this issue as it is costing money.

[Bill M]

Also with regards to bobbins being out of stock is why I'm in the process of having my own molded, which will be butyrate and of the proper dimensions.

[ReWind]

I suppose it's worth saying again on the second page, since everyone keeps glossing over it entirely…

I DON'T CARE ABOUT MOJO COVERS FITTING OR NOT; I care about how a company treats (or ignores) a customer. Period.

The lists were just to help others.

Anyway, it looks like a solution is in the works for both issues, which is good.

(Hey, Bill! Been a minute. Hope all is well.)

[Bill M]

I don't care about covers either, its a case of what a company is going to do about an existing problem. I;ve had to replace the covers on more than a few sets of pickups and have not gotten a definitive answer either way.

[Possum]

[JGundry]

I think it really comes down to logistics. Whether you buy from Mojo or make your own parts you have to stock enough. I usually order enough parts to last 6 months to a year (depending on the part) and when I'm half way through them I order another 6 month to year supply. The fastest parts can get made is 3-4 weeks and very often more like 3 months. I concluded it was really not realistic to have enough parts on hand without making my on parts. Plus you get the advantage of controlling specs. etc.. But the overhead cost is huge. But this is why I make all my own parts.

I make my own P.A.F. covers with straight sides and never had an issue with fitting routes. The cover sides are an easy matter to address. When the tooling was made for my covers I believe they asked me if I wanted the sides pinch trimmed or flush trimmed (I think I got the terms correct) and whichever you choose determines whether the sides are straight or bowed. P.A.F. Covers used to be made by a company here in Grand Rapids called Johnson Metal, now gone. Gibson makes covers with Brunk in Wisconsin, another USA place which will remain nameless and overseas from what I have been told.

[Bill M]

The issue with the mojo covers isn't flaring at the ends, its that the 4 side corners are too sharp and not rounded enough.

[JGundry]

The issue with the mojo covers isn't flaring at the ends, its that the 4 side corners are too sharp and not rounded enough.

I know, DeMarzeeo has or had this problem with the corners also. This is just lack of attention, these covers clearly don't even match the corners of their own baseplates. The bowed sides comment addressed Spence and Possum.

[SkinnyWire]

I think it really comes down to logistics. Whether you buy from Mojo or make your own parts you have to stock enough. I usually order enough parts to last 6 months to a year (depending on the part) and when I'm half way through them I order another 6 month to year supply. The fastest parts can get made is 3-4 weeks and very often more like 3 months. I concluded it was really not realistic to have enough parts on hand without making my on parts. Plus you get the advantage of controlling specs. etc.. But the overhead cost is huge. But this is why I make all my own parts.

I make my own P.A.F. covers with straight sides and never had an issue with fitting routes. The cover sides are an easy matter to address. When the tooling was made for my covers I believe they asked me if I wanted the sides pinch trimmed or flush trimmed (I think I got the terms correct) and whichever you choose determines whether the sides are straight or bowed. P.A.F. Covers used to be made by a company here in Grand Rapids called Johnson Metal, now gone. Gibson makes covers with Brunk in Wisconsin, another USA place which will remain nameless and overseas from what I have been told.

Too bad those aren't available to others. Ah well.

[JGundry]

Too bad those aren't available to others. Ah well.

That are, as assembled pickups.

[kayakerca]

Was looking at putting some pickup parts into my Mojo Cart this morning and decided to check the "dealer" account pricing against the "non-dealer" account pricing. I was a little surprised to find that dealers no longer get a discount on parts purchases (I checked rod magnets and flatwork). Well at least this guy with a Mojo dealer account.

[RedHouse]

I just logged in and find myself the same, no discount, wonder when that happened?
(and why?)