#42 wire on PAF's is it single or heavy build?

[nicksorenson]

On a PAF the wire is 42 Plain Enamel I've read. Is it single or heavy?

Also, as far as mis-matched coils what are opinions out there on which coil to let have the higher amount of turns.

[NightWinder]

You should do a search here. Try it. You'll get answers.
Assymetrical winding is in the Eye of the beholder

[nicksorenson]

I may be a forum idiot here but I got this error message about the term PAF being not enough letters...

'The search term you specified (paf) is under the minimum word length (4) and therefore will not be found. Please make this term longer.
If this term contains a wildcard, please make this term more specific.'

You should do a search here. Try it. You'll get answers.
Assymetrical winding is in the Eye of the beholder

[kevinT]

i put in the word "offset" and got a few threads pertaining to this topic.

http://music-electronics-forum.com/s...searchid=93408

try other terms like mismatch coils, enamel wire, turns,

http://music-electronics-forum.com/s...searchid=93468

[kevinT]

whoops....here is some more info

I believe most folks favor a hotter screw coil.

here is some other info

http://lollarguitars.com/Articles/TQRNov06.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAF_(pickup)

http://www.flyingvintage.com/gcmag/PAF.html

[David Schwab]

I believe most folks favor a hotter screw coil.

That would make sense, since the slug coil has a stronger magnetic field.

The screws have a smaller diameter shaft, and if they extend below the base plate, are leaking flux out the back of the pickup.

So in essence you are probably balancing the output of the two coils.

[Dave Kerr]

But the shim under the slug cuts down appreciably on the magnetic conductivity, no? I'm not a lawyer, so please interpret a sentence with a question mark after it as a true expression of ignorance - I don't ask questions to which I already know the answer.

[David Schwab]

But the shim under the slug cuts down appreciably on the magnetic conductivity, no?

You mean the shim that supports the bobbin?

The slugs touch the magnet. The shim doesn't do anything. The shims are usually plastic or wood.

[Dave Kerr]

I didn't know they touched - I've never taken apart or wound anything other than a single coil. I figured that they were made of wood or plastic for a reason other than economy.

[David Schwab]

I didn't know they touched - I've never taken apart or wound anything other than a single coil. I figured that they were made of wood or plastic for a reason other than economy.

The old Gibson pickups I had used mahogany shims.. because they had a lot of scraps of mahogany around! I've seen maple used also.

If you have a space between the magnet and pole piece you are loosing power. The magnetic field drops off with the square of the distance from the magnet. This is why those silulations that show a magnetic field way past the strings on a Fender pickup are inaccurate. Sure, it's up there, but it's pretty weak.

DiMarzio has a patent (of course!) on pickups with a small gap or plastic spacer between the magnet and poles to make a full charge magnet sound vintage.

[NightWinder]

ah,ah, ah. Schwab! Least not forget if the slugs are touching the baseplate also, or not which have different articulation tonalitys. Don't worry about thier patents- last I heard "the worst part about eating pu#@y was putting the diaper back on". Dave is right with the "gap" not touching the poles....

[gilligan]

What????????

[David Schwab]

ah,ah, ah. Schwab! Least not forget if the slugs are touching the baseplate also, or not which have different articulation tonalitys. Don't worry about thier patents-...

Hmmmm.... ok. Well I was talking about the magnetic circuit. I'm not sure how the slugs touching the baseplate would matter, since they touch the magnet, and that touches the baseplate. The important thing is they need to be grounded.

Personally I wouldn't want to put out a pickup that infringes on any of DiMarzio's patents. They have expensive lawyers.

[NightWinder]

No infringment, just stating a lousy dumpster......." Vintage ivory" isn't infringment btw. I don't use brass either.
Just a statement of the guitar humbuckers you love to hate. I'll say again, as I always do to you, you should try it. HAve all the poles touching the plate as well (surely snug against the mag), and then pole Snug against the magnet, but hovered over without touching the plate. This sound has been proven from computerized winders, so we'll eliminate the handwonding aspect for a minute....
I see now you were stating a gap "between the magnet and the poles. I originally thought the gp from the poles to the plate. Sorry bout that.

[David Schwab]

HAve all the poles touching the plate as well (surely snug against the mag), and then pole Snug against the magnet, but hovered over without touching the plate. This sound has been proven from computerized winders, so we'll eliminate the handwonding aspect for a minute....
I see now you were stating a gap "between the magnet and the poles. I originally thought the gp from the poles to the plate. Sorry bout that.

If your slugs are touching the baseplate, they would have to be longer than normal, right? That's where your difference in tone is. Either the slugs have to be longer, or the magnet is thinner. Change either one and I'm sure you'd hear it.