IF we started a Pickup Theory sub-forum . . .

[DrStrangelove]

What would it do?

Discuss the science of how pickups work. Science sometimes means citing numbers, equations, or references.

(Change this until it looks sensible.)



What is a short simple statement of purpose?

To explain and predict pickup behavior based on scientific principles.

(Use 2 words or 15 as long as they cover the essentials.)

-The IMmoderator

[big_teee]

It could be similar to the Amp Category equivalent "Theory and Design".
Theory & Design
To discuss Hypothetical issues and Problems.
It could be named "Pickup Theory & Design"
To free up the regular pickup forum for regular pickup discussions.
IMO the Category is way past due!
T

[bbsailor]

It could be similar to the Amp Category equivalent "Theory and Design".
Theory & Design
To discuss Hypothetical issues and Problems.
It could be named "Pickup Theory & Design"
To free up the regular pickup forum for regular pickup discussions.
IMO the Category is way past due!
T

Make the thread so it can be a reference resource for web links to related technical information about the following topics that are related to pickup construction, measurement and sound performance.
1. Inductance Contributors
2. Magnetic Fields, Transformer Action
3. Pickup Measurement, voltage output, signal phase, frequency response
4. Pickup Noise (ways to optimize the signal to noise ratio)
5. Transmission line characteristics of various types of guitar cables
6. Wire characteristics, skin effect, wire size, wire resistance
7. Pickup physical construction and interaction between nearby metal covers or base plates, eddy currents, core inductance
8. On board passive volume and tone component values
9. Active on board high-z pickup loading
10. Pickup recorded sounds
11. Pickup Calculator

Most technical discussions relate to one or more of these 11 areas related to pickup design. Feel free to refine my suggested list. We can look back to reflect on traditional pickup designs and we can also look forward to see how pickups may evolve over time.

Joseph J. Rogowski

[Leo_Gnardo]

How to keep the googans under control whilst the pros & serious students do their thing?

[mr fab]

What would it do?

To explain and predict pickup behavior based on scientific principles.

-The IMmoderator

scientific analysis of existing pickups

[LtKojak]

How to keep the googans under control whilst the pros & serious students do their thing?]

By simply nuke'em on request, no mercy shown, no-tolerance policy, totally Nazi-style, totally Mob-style of making bodies disappear. Not an elegant solution, granted, but it works. Like in nature, if you're too stupid, you die. It keeps the gene pool on an improving pace. Evolution at its best!

[mr fab]

By simply nuke'em on request, no mercy shown, no-tolerance policy, totally Nazi-style, totally Mob-style of making bodies disappear. Not an elegant solution, granted, but it works. Like in nature, if you're too stupid, you die. It keeps the gene pool on an improving pace. Evolution at its best!

like schwartzenegger nuking Einstein?

[mr fab]

a thought... maybe the result of this sub-forum could be a textbook or sorts.

in other words... once the topic is thrashed out etc etc

it could be set in stone in some place, as a reference document, rather than have info ( and misinformation) scattered all over the place and hard to find

it would help to point people out to a single point of reference for principles and fact, rather than rehashing the same Q's all the time

[Enzo]

As someone who does not participate in this section, it seems like the experiment is to simply start a few threads of that nature, and see how the members react and contribute. Over in the electronics part, we had a couple "good idea" sections added, and no one uses them. If it sails, then you can move them into a newly made section, and/or make stickies of them.

I have been in some very lengthy threads over on the other side here, like many pages and boocoo posts. But as a learning resource, I am not too keen on reading through something like that to glean the bits of wisdom buried within. Perhaps an interested soul could condense the contents of such a thread into a summary, then post THAT as the reference work.

Take that for what it is worth, the last coil I wound was a solenoid coil for a pinball machine 35 years ago. (We used to make our own)

[DrStrangelove]

. . it seems like the experiment is to simply start a few threads of that nature, and see how the members react and contribute. Over in the electronics part, we had a couple "good idea" sections added, and no one uses them. If it sails, then you can move them into a newly made section, and/or make stickies of them.

Thanks, Enzo. It sounds like good sense to me.

[big_teee]

If it is regular ole pickup work with regular extec diagnostics, stick it in the main forum.
If it requires college calculus, physics, and gets too gifted and talented, stick it in Mike & Joe's Theory and design section!
My 2 cents.
T

[David King]

Quietly open up the "Keep out" sub-forum and don't make it visible to search engines until we know better the quality of the discussion. It will be our dirty little secret.

[Leo_Gnardo]

By simply nuke'em on request, <snip> Evolution at its best!

Oh my Lt. K, I can see you've had it up to your eyebrows with googans. I feel much the same.

How's about another proposition, sort of a "Master Class for Pickups". It involves money, not a whole lot, but that will go to Tboy, help run the website. First, gather a core group of experts, maybe a dozen or so. The experienced pickup winders like you, Terry, some others besides. Add the science/engineering brain trust: Mike Sulzer, salvarsan, a couple more. Those who wish to learn, sign up as students, pony up $100 a year tuition. Not a lot for someone who's serious about learning. But definitely too much for any googan. I suspect no googan would put up a penny. "Serious students only." Respect and good behavior required, or out the door you go, no refund.

Maybe allow others to observe, but not participate unless they put up the loot. Alternately, a break price for "class auditing", say $25/year to observe with no participation rights.

Change this until it looks sensible, as Doc S says.

Or kick it to the curb & organize some other way. Just an idea.

[big_teee]

No Thanks!

[LtKojak]

no googan would put up a penny. Serious students only. Respect and good behavior required, or out the door you go, no refund.

Exactly!

"Money talks, BS walks"