Short/low profile dogear neck p90 covers

[buddha0709]

Anybody know of any other place that sells these other than Angela instruments? They have them at $8ea which is kinda pricey.
I coulda sworn I've found them somewhere for closer to $4ea before..
I can get blank covers and drill my own spacing but the blank covers aren't short/low profile.

The narrow spaced bobbins aren't an issue as I can have p90 flatwork made 48mm and use standoffs.

[copperheadroads]

If your looking Casino covers ?
WD has them

[buddha0709]

If your looking Casino covers ?
WD has them

Just the plastic ones. I"ve got a ton of the metal ones.

[Lollar Jason]

Allparts

[buddha0709]

Allparts

that's of course the only place I don't have a dealer account. It's $7 for a set (1 normal dogear cover and 1 short dogear cover), anyone care to say if its massively cheaper with the dealer discount?
I don't have a big enough business to get a business license like they require. Like most guys here, it's just a hobby for me.

[Lollar Jason]

Even at $7 a set thats less than half the price you were paying. allparts dealer cost is typically 50 off list. What people often do wrong is because they either consider it a hobby or they think because they are trying to get established that they should or need to sell thier work well below market value. Dont do that if you are- my un asked for advice.

[big_teee]

Even at $7 a set thats less than half the price you were paying. allparts dealer cost is typically 50 off list. What people often do wrong is because they either consider it a hobby or they think because they are trying to get established that they should or need to sell thier work well below market value. Dont do that if you are- my un asked for advice.

If you are in a repressed area, and don't have Jason Lollar Name recognition?
You just end up selling very few pickups, if you sell high.
I've done it both ways.
People will love your pickups and not buy them, if you charge much.
That is why most of us, are very particular what we pay for parts.
That is why I quit selling Bass Multi-coils.
Bass players love them, but won't pay for the labor to make 8 coils with 10,000 turns on them.
My 2 cents.
T

[kayakerca]

that's of course the only place I don't have a dealer account. It's $7 for a set (1 normal dogear cover and 1 short dogear cover), anyone care to say if its massively cheaper with the dealer discount?
I don't have a big enough business to get a business license like they require. Like most guys here, it's just a hobby for me.

I was granted a dealer account by Allparts. Didn't seem to be any issue and I am in Canada. If I remember correctly, their only requirement (beyond some paperwork) was that the initial order needed to be in excess of some mandatory minimum. I'd say, if you are selling pickups, apply for a dealer account and do what it takes to comply with the application. It's worth it.

[kayakerca]

What people often do wrong is because they either consider it a hobby or they think because they are trying to get established that they should or need to sell thier work well below market value. Dont do that if you are- my un asked for advice.

As a low volume boutique winder that only sell locally (pickup only), I've done the math a few times recently. Buying a Strat single coil set from, say, Lollar Pickups as an example; after shipping, foreign exchange conversion, customs clearing, and domestic VAT, they land in at just north of $500 Cdn. That's what I am competing against from a price perspective. Not even remotely suggesting any form of comparison on the physical product side of things, but there is a LOT of room between that type of number and what I was selling for. End result, I raised my prices and it seems to have had no effect on customers' comments. I think that's about the only benefit for my shop of a tanking Cdn dollar.

A couple of local guitar tech's/luthiers have commented that pricing low leaves players thinking you are not selling a top quality product. The odd time someone does let me know that price is their main consideration, I just send them to Tone Emporium in town as they import direct from the Pacific Rim, branded packaged product that they just put in an envelope with some postage. Everybody goes home happy.

[buddha0709]

I'll see about a dealer account with them. At $7 per cover (with the normal height cover in the "set"), it comes to about $6ea, which is a couple bucks cheaper.
I get most of my parts from WD, just happens to be one of the only things they don't carry. Though they do carry the metal casino covers.
The minimum requirement is $200, which I'll look into in the future.

I rarely make new neck pickups for Rivieras and Wildkats and Casino's, so it's not a big deal.

[David King]

How hard can it be to get a business license? Most states make it extremely easy because they want any sales tax revenue they can get (and most of them need that revenue to provide basic services). If most of your sales are out of state via mail order you won't be dealing much with the state authorities. That said I don't mind the fact that my state doesn't have a sales tax.;-) I did have to pay a one-time $100 city business license fee in my first year. I made that back in my first order.

[Lollar Jason]

VAT really makes exporting difficult, pricing is worthy of its own thread for sure
In my state it use to be to get a business license it was a $20 fee and you have to pay B+O tax which is something like .0012 percent or some such low rate, no filing needed if you make under something like 2 grand a quarter but you need that to get a resale number which in the state of WA if you are going buy parts untaxed or sell parts or completed goods to other businesses untaxed they have really gotten sticky about collecting everyones resale number you sell to and having all the certificates up to date- if you get audited, different deal than an IRS audit.

[JGundry]

If you are a hobbyist maker then really you should be paying more. You are buying parts as needed from people that need to make a living selling those parts. They have to buy in large quantities, pay rent, insurance, pay employees, lots of overhead cost that the guy with a small workbench at home does not have to worry about.

I was a commercial photographer for 20+ years and every once and a while I would have to bid against "Bob". You know Bob, he is the guy two cubicles over at work that just bought a really good new digital camera, I bet Bob could take those pictures a lot cheaper. There is also "Jane", she is the empty nester whose physician husband bought here the latest and greatest camera to pursue her art. "Jane " takes good pictures too for very little money. Neither Bob nor Jane feed themselves with their hobbyist earnings, they buy more stuff to feed their hobby. Whenever bidding against Bob or Jane I would nicely explain that I understood they had to keep an eye on cost but that I was not in business to make less money.

[kayakerca]

If you are a hobbyist maker then really you should be paying more.

Please provide your definition of the term "hobbyist" in the context of your remarks so I don't provide a response based a misinterpretation.

[JGundry]

If the pricing and or volume does not allow for a livable wage then you are a hobbyist. You may be a hobbyist that is working towards a professional full time business but you just don't have the volume of sales yet. I'm fine with hobbyist makers, most everyone started as a hobbyist. The professional though has made a commitment to the overhead cost of buying many parts and with that they can get a better per piece price on parts. There is no long term overhead cost for the hobbyist that buys small numbers of parts as needed, so naturally they pay more.