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    Who does 'em?

    I know Zhang does.

    I never thought I would bother but I had (a little) free time last night and for some reason decided to try. So I sat down with wire in one hand and a bobbin in the other. I only wound one 'bucker bobbin. It's sloppy as all hell and very loose/spongy (mainly because I failed to notice I was winding over a lead wire for a good amount of time). I broke the wire 3 times and dropped the bobbin about 10. A clumsy effort for sure--and the beer didn't help either.

    Because the wind is so loose, I'll probably scratch it and try a new one. I have no idea how many turns of wire, I just wound it until it was full and got 3.71k with 42 SPN. Probably would have made a nice neck pickup if the wire wasn't flappin' in the breeze.

    Just thought I'd share. Anyone else got any stories or experiences to share?

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    why would you even bother?

    It's not like there's a benefit in doing it that way.... no pickups were made like that.
    It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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    • #3
      Originally posted by PoorMan View Post
      Who does 'em?

      I know Zhang does.?
      I thought Zhang used an electric drill setup? I could be mistaken.

      Originally posted by PoorMan View Post
      I never thought I would bother but I had (a little) free time last night and for some reason decided to try. So I sat down with wire in one hand and a bobbin in the other. I only wound one 'bucker bobbin. It's sloppy as all hell and very loose/spongy (mainly because I failed to notice I was winding over a lead wire for a good amount of time). I broke the wire 3 times and dropped the bobbin about 10. A clumsy effort for sure--and the beer didn't help either.?
      Man you must have the patience of Jobe. I would have needed quite a few beers to even think about attempting it.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
        why would you even bother?

        It's not like there's a benefit in doing it that way.... no pickups were made like that.
        Morbid curiosity, I guess. Just an experiment.

        Some guys handwind...doesn't Tim White? I think Armstrong did.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kevinT View Post
          I thought Zhang used an electric drill setup? I could be mistaken.



          Man you must have the patience of Jobe. I would have needed quite a few beers to even think about attempting it.
          Zhang offers pure hand wounds in addition to using a winder.

          LOL! Perhaps the beers are to blame.

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          • #6
            I tried winding a coil by hand about 25 years ago and got about a 1k turns on before I thought about going postal, and that was without beer.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by PoorMan View Post
              Morbid curiosity, I guess. Just an experiment.

              Some guys handwind...doesn't Tim White? I think Armstrong did.
              I don't know who Tim White is, but I'd imagine most people used some kind of motor... like Seymour Duncan used a phonograph turntable.

              I think Rick Turner started out doing it all manually too. That's why he wound pickups with low turn counts!
              It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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              www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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              • #8
                Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
                I don't know who Tim White is, but I'd imagine most people used some kind of motor... like Seymour Duncan used a phonograph turntable.

                I think Rick Turner started out doing it all manually too. That's why he wound pickups with low turn counts!
                It's true I do make a line of pu's (primarily humbuckers) with the wire wrapped entirely by hand. I was inspired by a Timbucker (Tim White pickup) that I opened it up and what I saw could not have been wound by a machine to my mind. I can't say with 100% certainty that he lays it on by hand but it would explain why his waiting list is 18 to 24 months. It would also explain how I got a very similar tone doing it that way.

                It takes a little getting used to and you can wrap it pretty fast by hand with some practice, but I can get a humbucker coil done in about 2 hours, including the necessary breaks.

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