Valco/National/Airline fake humbuckers?

[Possum]

Anyone ever take one of these apart, they look like buckers but are single coils. Anyone have pix of the guts of one of these?

[David Schwab]

I see there was a picture posted on an old thread here:

http://music-electronics-forum.com/s...50&postcount=3

Looks like the magnets are lying on their side in the space where the other coil would be on a humbucker.

[Spence]

Are they single coils? Have you removed the coil Possum? I'm just wondering why the two magnets? I had a National Lapsteel in one day that had two small coils side by side with the opposing poles of a horseshoe magnet on it's side....

[Electricdaveyboy]

Yo !
I have one here and it has both magnets south poles face the steel plate and one single paper bobbin.So it is not a humbucker.
cheers

david

[SteikBacon]

I got a Flying V with a "humbucker" that really was a single coil. Think I still have them. Don´t know what guitar it was, no name on headstock, can that pickup tell what guitar it really was??

[Spence]

Pics please.

[Possum]

paper bobbin...

any idea what the pole screws are sunk into in the bobbin? plastic core, wood?

[Electricdaveyboy]

I will have to take it apart...........
db

[Mark Hammer]

Those old Epiphone New Yorker pickups also looked like humbuckers but were really only single coils under the wide part of the cover with offset adjustable "polepieces". Gave them a wider sensing area, though, and a correspondingly "beefy" sound.

[Possum]

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yeah would like to see pix of that too, alot of people dislike those pickups as welll.....

[Mark Hammer]

Mine sounded okay. It just wasn't humbucking. I'd tell you and show you more about it, but I gave it to Mark Knopfler in 1987 or so. Have no idea what he did with it. I did pop the cover, though, at one point, and it is a kind of U-channel field. The fake polepieces are magnetically coupled to the magnet inside the actual coil.

People tend not to want to take them apart because those end pieces that look like they are ivory actually ARE ivory. Bust 'em and you won't find a replacement.

[SteikBacon]

Here are those that I removed from a Flying V.

I never found out who made that guitar, do anyone know?? I still use the guitar.

[David Schwab]

The bobbin looks like the ones in a Sekova Les Paul copy I used to have. They also look like Univox bobbins (probably made in the same factory.

[jonson]

bobbins

Super common in most of the far eastern copies.
bobbins from

http://www.paxphil.co.kr/


http://www.paxphil.co.kr/pickup%20co...20bobbings.htm

[gilligan]

Parts?

Super common in most of the far eastern copies.
bobbins from

http://www.paxphil.co.kr/


http://www.paxphil.co.kr/pickup%20co...20bobbings.htm

Does this place sell to small builders? A lot of parts there. I don't see any prices though.
Ron