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  • Source for alnico 4 ?

    Hello winders,
    I wound like to buy some alnico 4 PAF style magnets.Can you guys give me a link ?
    thanks
    david

  • #2
    Wolfe says it doesn't exist.
    However, you can get them from S.K. currently.
    sigpic Dyed in the wool

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Electricdaveyboy View Post
      Hello winders,
      I wound like to buy some alnico 4 PAF style magnets.Can you guys give me a link ?
      thanks
      david
      Electricdaveyboy

      Lindy Fralin told me he uses alnico 4 in his humbuckers. I asked about alnico 2 and he said he could make me a humbucker with that if I sent him the magnet. Lindy would have zero problem getting alnico 2, but he must order it in bulk and not just one single piece.

      I know Tom Holmes is using alnico 2 in his humbuckers and the Duncan EVH humbucker I have has alnico 2 in it. I have a set of Fralin humbuckers in my Les Paul. These pickups all sound extremely good and different than each other.

      My suggestion would be to call Lindy Fralin and I would imagine he would sell you some magnets.

      Mike

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      • #4
        RS Guitarworks has them. I can't remember what site it was but there was another selling magnets in 2,3,4 and 5 individually.
        www.tonefordays.com

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        • #5
          http://www.shop.wymoreguitars.com/ca...?categoryId=29
          -Stan
          ...just transferring wire from one spool to another
          Stan Hinesley Pickups
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          • #6
            alnico 8

            I see they have alnico 8, whats that stuff like?
            http://www.SDpickups.com
            Stephens Design Pickups

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            • #7
              It's like AlNiCo V but with more Titanium. My understanding is that Wolfe has used it quite a bit in the past and that a lot of people really like it in a humbucker. I think Maton Guitars use it almost exclusively now.
              sigpic Dyed in the wool

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              • #8
                Thanks for all the help !
                I think I will try to contact SK.

                @Possum,
                I have the A8 in stock and I can tell they are verry strong.They are nice for modern high output pickups wound with thinner wire gauges.
                With 42AWG it will sound verry brittle if you use the regular slug/screw design.
                I think I will degause one and check it for a vintage style bucker.

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                • #9
                  I believe Bill L. used some A8 also.

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                  • #10
                    Doktor Bill Lorenz !

                    Bill used everything.He used the parts wich were available and created the pickups then.He started pickup making in germany and in those times 50-60 it had to be this way.
                    Later in the OBL and Gibson years he used parts made out of materials from the Electronic industry.
                    I can not remember how many of the bad ABS bobbins on the OBL and gibson
                    humbuckers I had to change in the past but there were many.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Electricdaveyboy View Post
                      Bill used everything.He used the parts wich were available and created the pickups then.He started pickup making in germany and in those times 50-60 it had to be this way.
                      Later in the OBL and Gibson years he used parts made out of materials from the Electronic industry.
                      I can not remember how many of the bad ABS bobbins on the OBL and gibson
                      humbuckers I had to change in the past but there were many.
                      You know the OBL pickups Gibson used where not the real thing. After Bill split with his partner (who kept making the Lawrence pickups, and still does) he made the OBL (Original Bill Lawrence) pickups out of Germany. Gibson like them and used some, and then they started making their own poorly made pickups with the OBL name on them. That's what Bill says anyway.

                      He did a lot of the interesting designs with Gibson, like the L6-S, L9-S Ripper, the sidewinder Thunderbird and Firebird pickups, Superhumbucker, and those wacky single coil instruments like the G-3, Marauder, S-1, etc.

                      There's one guy that can make a high output pickups with ice pick highs!
                      It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


                      http://coneyislandguitars.com
                      www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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                      • #12
                        Hey David,
                        so the Gibson humbuckers with the printboard were not desinged by ol´Willi ?

                        You know every big name in the replacment pickup circus learned from Bill.

                        Bills neighbour at OBL in Offenbach told me that there was some smart american boy visiting him from time to time named Larry D.

                        And there were some more.............

                        Had a customer few weeks ago ,he had a korean made strat with an OBL humbucker in the bridge.This guitar can cut your hair at 24 K ohm !
                        Funny.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Electricdaveyboy View Post
                          Hey David,
                          so the Gibson humbuckers with the printboard were not desinged by ol´Willi ?

                          You know every big name in the replacment pickup circus learned from Bill.

                          Bills neighbour at OBL in Offenbach told me that there was some smart american boy visiting him from time to time named Larry D.

                          And there were some more.............

                          Had a customer few weeks ago ,he had a korean made strat with an OBL humbucker in the bridge.This guitar can cut your hair at 24 K ohm !
                          Funny.
                          Well Larry learned from Bill at Dan Armstrong's shop in NYC... they all worked together back in the 70's!

                          I'm not sure which OBL pickups are not his, but he said he licensed them to Gibson and they ended up putting the logo on something that wasn't his design. I've only seen a couple of the OBL's in person, and that was like 20 years ago.

                          Bill got me interested in pickups when he wrote an article in Guitar Player magazine back in the 70's. I'd love to sit and pick his brain for a day!

                          What the heck gauge wire do you use for a 24K pickup? 50 AWG?
                          It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


                          http://coneyislandguitars.com
                          www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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