how does resoldering affect tone?

[aljosha]

hy,

I dont know wheter this was answered anywhere so far
I couldn't find the answer anyway

making my beginnings with winding pretty soon the phenomena of brakeage occurred
well, soldering it back is no problem
my first attempt has 3 or 4 resolders in it...
my second one got none
havent tested them yet though

now I'm just winding again, and well, it broke
at 4000 with 2,77k resistance
I could just resolder it, and go with it, but I wondered
how will this affect tone? is it nothing to worry about?

I havent got a testing-instrument-jig yet so I ask you

should I start anew or not?
and maybe, how many resolders is the maximum?
I have no problem with starting anew, but if its not neccessary...

I use 42 AWG wire on strat-picks
both from stewmac (I know thats not the cheapest way to go )

thanks
best
aljosha

[big_teee]

There is really no set or probable correct answer to this.
Ideally you want no splices or solder joints.
With that said it happens to all of us.
I splice my wires together by pigtailing the two wires together.
I do not splice end to end.
When You solder end to end to much heat on each wire, weakening the wire.
If you pig tail and solder the end away for the two adjoining wires This help from weaking the joining wires when soldered.
Solder loose end, trim, fold back straight and coat with fingernail polish lacquer.
Let it dry.
I've had very good luck with this method, with very little adverse effects.
Picture is for electrical wiring, but same principal applies, minus the wire nuts!
Also solder closer to the adjoining wires than the picture shows, but you get the concept.
Good Luck,
Terry

[copperheadroads]

I use a wire nuts too ,for my splices, but it does make the pickup look a little asymmetrical HAHA
Up here in Canada ,We them marettes ...........lol

[aljosha]

hy,

allright, I'll go with it then
I'll build me a testing instrument soon anyway
thanks for helping
best
aljosha

[big_teee]

hy,

allright, I'll go with it then
I'll build me a testing instrument soon anyway
thanks for helping
best
aljosha

If you are consistently breaking wire check some of this.
Too much tension while winding.
Possibly winding too fast.
You may need to narrow the wire guide so wire doesn't hit edges of Bobbin or flatwork.
Check and Lightly sand all sharp edges on flatwork and bobbin edges.
Check for sharp edges on Lip of Wire Spool.
Make sure metal rivets on all flatwork type bobbins is flush with no sharp edges protruding Through the flatwork.
Beyond that, it takes time to get the tension right.
When I first started I broke wire all the time.
Now it is just occasionly.
Good Luck!
Terry

[Danelectron]

aljosha, I too, am curious. One thing I notice is if I check the DCR of a finished pickup(HB) it comes out a couple hundred ohms higher than the coils before soldering the finish leads on and assembling. Technically this will affect the tone, but whether it's noticable is probably subjective. The main thing is that it sounds good. My first HB had 6 solder joints in it and it sounded fine. The second had a couple, but I haven't had to splice in one since those. It gets easier. I may have to try the wirenuts though.

[kelcy]

I've had some breaks, but I've never considered soldering the break back together. It seems like it would make the pickup sound messier. I've wasted a lot of copper by not soldering the breaks...

[copperheadroads]

aljosha, I too, am curious. One thing I notice is if I check the DCR of a finished pickup(HB) it comes out a couple hundred ohms higher than the coils before soldering the finish leads on and assembling. Technically this will affect the tone, but whether it's noticeable is probably subjective.

Pickups will usually read higher ,during soldering the wire , heating up the wire causes the increase in DCR .it should decrease a little a couple hours after the soldering is done

[aljosha]

hy guys,

thanks a lot
i resoldered it, and wound it up to 5,86 with finishing leads 8)
with no further breaks, by the way
hope it sounds like planned, though
well I have 3 more strat picks and a Tele set to do before waxing
hope I can come up with a cheap guitar to build me the testing-jig till then

best
aljosha

[David Schwab]

Here's how I splice a break. I take both ends of the magnet wire, and wind them around a short piece of tinned and stripped 28 gauge hookup wire a bunch of times. Then I solder that. I test it to the beginning lead to see that I have a working splice, then I fold a small piece of paper taper over it, and lay it flat in the bobbin, and continue to wind over it.

The key to not breaking wire is to wind slower until you get the feel of it.