Some tips about winding process and not only.

[MrCandy]

We would like to give you some tips about the effect of winding on the frequency characteristics of pickups. Main difficulty of manufacturers is geting frequency characteristics they need for pickup they work on. Often even large manufacturers to adjust the frequency forced to use such questionable methods of adjustment like short closed loop around the coil in the form of foil, that can not be a panacea for adjusting the coil/pickup.
Resonance peak(RP), that is above 10 kHz gives dark and not expressive sound and more suitable for relay, not for pickups.
It is desirable to achieve RP 6-10 kHz depending on the type of pickup you want to produce. More details about measurement methods of RP are available here http://music-electronics-forum.com/t25556/#post218352.
Regardless of the method of winding(HM,CNC) to achive pickup with bright and responsive sound wire layout should be turn to turn, or even with a small bulk.
it gives lower RP, which in turn gives a higher readability.
RPs above 10 kHz although it would seem um have a lot of high-frequencies in fact, due to lack of mid-range - sound is a cotton, so it is advisable not to climb above 10kHz. Main factor defining the tone of pickup sound is the middle frequencies spector(2-6kHz).
Try to experiment with the layout of the wire 60-120(for standart humbucker for example) turns in a row and you'll hear the difference in sound
http://music-electronics-forum.com/t25556/#post218678
http://music-electronics-forum.com/t25556/#post218679
http://music-electronics-forum.com/t25556/#post218838
(If you look closely here there is something which is useful)

With respect to all beginners MrAndry, MrCandy and AndryPickupParts team.

[big_teee]

Why are you posting a thread in the Beginners area, that links back to more complex Theory threads in the regular forum?
These threads are already posted in the regular forum!
IMHO Looks like more Trolling to sell your over priced SPN wire and pickup parts.
We like to leave this area for basic winding questions!
Moderators what do you think?
Terry

[verhoevenc]

Not to mention it's somewhat incoherent rambling from the little I tried to read?
Chris

[David King]

If translated into English I think this is exactly the type of info a newbie might like to know.
Namely having a resonant peak above 10KHz results in a darker sound because our ears (and amps) aren't very sensitive in that range.
To lower your resonant peak down into the 6-10K range it's helpful to wind a bulky pickup where the winds aren't too tight and where the wires cross over each other at a slight angle as often as practicable. This means dropping your turns-per down to something in the 60-120 range. (I personally would go a lot lower than that, probably in the 20-40 tpl range).
Terry I really don't see any reference to selling anything here, I think you might be reading too much into this.
Lastly there is no law that a newbie has to buy the most expensive wire out there. (It just works out that way)

[MrCandy]

Why are you posting a thread in the Beginners area, that links back to more complex Theory threads in the regular forum?
These threads are already posted in the regular forum!
IMHO Looks like more Trolling to sell your over priced SPN wire and pickup parts.
We like to leave this area for basic winding questions!
Moderators what do you think?
Terry

Mr big_teee this is basic winding question, ABC of pickup making.
This is exactly what a beginner needs to know.
If you find this tips a REVELATION then the Beginner's Corner is what you exactly need.

[MrCandy]

The next clue we would like you to give you is PRACTICE.
The following tip is all about getting a wider range of humbucker
which is the main basis for a really good sound.
We can whisper long about "beauty and love" I mean theoretical considerations
but it is better to proceed directly to the practice:

Example 1 bridge humbucker
1)Slug coil 5200 turns, AWG 42 wire, layout step 110 turns in a row.
2)Polepiece coil 5350 turns, AWG 42 wire, layout step 80 turns in a row.

Example 2 neck humbucker
1)Slug coil 5000 turns, AWG 42 wire, layout step 110 turns in a row.
2)Polepiece coil 4900 turns, AWG 42 wire, layout step 90 turns in a row.

These examples will provide a wide spector for pickup and minimizes "pickup snuffle",
"pull it out of the aquarium".

Experiment and practice
With respect to this comunity
MrCandy

P.S. Maybe some grammatical constructions of sentences we post are not clear enough for some people, what can we do - language barriers.
In the end the essence of what was posted is important, not d grammatical construction of the sentence.