Mismatch coil and awg

[Marco78]

In the PAF, is the mismatching coil of 10%? 20%?

Ie. If one coil is 5000 wind, is another coil 4500 winds? 4000 winds?

With 42 PE what is the maximum kohm? 10 kohm for pickups? and with 43 PE?

Thanks a lot

[big_teee]

In the PAF, is the mismatching coil of 10%? 20%?

Ie. If one coil is 5000 wind, is another coil 4500 winds? 4000 winds?

With 42 PE what is the maximum kohm? 10 kohm for pickups? and with 43 PE?

Thanks a lot

Don't have a clue what they did on a Real Gibson PAF.
They tried to wind them the same but some came out one coil unequal.
I make a hot bridge that has one coil 4.5k, and the other 4.8k.(9.1-9.5k)
It is hard to get 10k of 42 on a Humbucker.
Some bobbins are bigger than others.
Just experiment and see what you come up with.
With 43 you can get 13-15k on a pair of bobbins.
Terry

[Marco78]

Thanks Terry for your fast reply.

Another questions: If I want a hot pickups I have to wind a pickups with closer wind and so with a high TFL (moving my hand more slowly). If I have two pickups with same DC resistance, same magnets and same baseplates etc etc but one with more TFL, what are the sound differences? More modern/metal sound?

[big_teee]

Thanks Terry for your fast reply.

Another questions: If I want a hot pickups I have to wind a pickups with closer wind and so with a high TFL (moving my hand more slowly). If I have two pickups with same DC resistance, same magnets and same baseplates etc etc but one with more TFL, what are the sound differences? More modern/metal sound?

I think you Mean TPL (Turns Per Layer).
The more turns per layer is more like Machine winding.
How they sound different is Everyones Guess and Opinion.
I try to just do a nice even layer.
If you guide by hand it will never be as even as machine winding.
That's why they call it Scatter Winding.
Good Luck,
Terry

[Marco78]

I think you Mean TPL (Turns Per Layer).
The more turns per layer is more like Machine winding.
How they sound different is Everyones Guess and Opinion.
I try to just do a nice even layer.
If you guide by hand it will never be as even as machine winding.
That's why they call it Scatter Winding.
Good Luck,
Terry

Yes, I mean TPL. I know the differences between machine winding and scatter winding, but I have read on Bareknuckle site that Tim use a closer winding for metal pickups, this winding method have more focused bass that tipical scatter winding that he use for PAF clone.

[big_teee]

Yes, I mean TPL. I know the differences between machine winding and scatter winding, but I have read on Bareknuckle site that Tim use a closer winding for metal pickups, this winding method have more focused bass that tipical scatter winding that he use for PAF clone.

I waited a while thinking someone else might have some tips and ideas for you.
Some effects in relationship to amounts of wire on a bobbin is:
A bobbin with less wire on a bobbin will be brighter than a full bobbin.
As you make the bobbin bigger with more wire, the layers get further from the magnetic field.
This darkens the sound but makes the Pickup hotter.
So what Barenuckle may be doing with a high TPL is making it possible to get more wire on the bobbin.
This makes it Hotter and darker for Metal Heads.
Now combine this with Ceramic or A8 Hot Magnets, Drop Down Tuning.
Add a Marshall Full Stack or two, and Maybe a Rat Distortion Pedal, and Your ready to Terrorize the Free world!
Good Luck,
Terry

[David Schwab]

In the PAF, is the mismatching coil of 10%? 20%?

Ie. If one coil is 5000 wind, is another coil 4500 winds? 4000 winds?

With 42 PE what is the maximum kohm? 10 kohm for pickups? and with 43 PE?

Thanks a lot

Both coils were supposed to be wound the same. If they weren't, it was by accident.

The resistance (ohms) isn't really what counts, because 5000 turns of 43 will read higher than 5000 turns of 42, but the pickup with 43 wont be louder. But it will sound different.

You would use the thiner wire to get more turns on the bobbin.

So if you can only fit 5000 turns of 42, switch to 43 or 44 and you will have more room to wind more wire on the pickup.

[Marco78]

Thanks boys!