Newbie here, wound my first pickup, a few questions

[jessejames]

hook your meter back up like picture one.
It will measure 7.27k.
Now take the clip lead off the 2 whites, and connect it to the other black lead.
You want to read from black of one bobbin to the black of the other bobbin.
It should read 15+k if you measure from black to black with the 2 whites wired together.
Don't tie the 2 blacks together, that is why you are reading the 4k instead of 16k.
Good Luck,
T

Thanks teee!
I finally got it right thanks to you and went ahead and wired it in. I fear I have wrapped the bobbin too loose as this pickup has a very reduced bass response, and searing mids and highs, not what I was going for, but for a first pickup, it will do, I did one for the neck too that does pretty well with the bass response, I wrapped it 5000 times with 42awg wire. I thought they were wrapping tight but I guess not.
In anyones experience have they noticed an increase in bass response with wax potting?

[big_teee]

Thanks teee!
I finally got it right thanks to you and went ahead and wired it in. I fear I have wrapped the bobbin too loose as this pickup has a very reduced bass response, and searing mids and highs, not what I was going for, but for a first pickup, it will do, I did one for the neck too that does pretty well with the bass response, I wrapped it 5000 times with 42awg wire. I thought they were wrapping tight but I guess not.
In anyones experience have they noticed an increase in bass response with wax potting?

Now that you have the Series circuit figured out, lets talk polarity.
I think you said the black lead was the start of each bobbin, and white was finish lead.
If you are using the 4 wire hookup, you do not tie the 2 whites together.
one would be tied to a white cable lead, the other would go to red.
Like the Duncan layout I sent you.
Also both bobbins would need to be wound in the same direction, I think you said CCW.

double check and make sure your like the attachment.
T

[copperheadroads]

17 post later
Just razzing you ,I'm glad you figured it out Jesse

[big_teee]

How About it JesseJames?
How is it going?
Are you Winning, or Gaining on it?
T

[SonnyW]

Thanks teee!
I finally got it right thanks to you and went ahead and wired it in. I fear I have wrapped the bobbin too loose as this pickup has a very reduced bass response, and searing mids and highs, not what I was going for, but for a first pickup, it will do, I did one for the neck too that does pretty well with the bass response, I wrapped it 5000 times with 42awg wire. I thought they were wrapping tight but I guess not.
In anyones experience have they noticed an increase in bass response with wax potting?

I have seen the resonant peak drop a little sometimes after wax potting, which is going in that direction at least. But to my ears I didn't hear much more bass.

[jessejames]

How About it JesseJames?
How is it going?
Are you Winning, or Gaining on it?
T

Not on the bass response, the one I did for the neck, which only has 7k resistance total is very bright and has low bass response as well. Best I can figure I wrapped them loose or didn't wrap them evenly enough.

[big_teee]

Not on the bass response, the one I did for the neck, which only has 7k resistance total is very bright and has low bass response as well. Best I can figure I wrapped them loose or didn't wrap them evenly enough.

Check this.
take something steel and go across each 6 screws, and 6 slug poles.
If you don't have the bar evenly charged, maybe the gauss is weak on one end.
I have done that before, and All that is needed is to recharge the Alnico bar with the NEOs.
Make sure you steel is big enough you can get an idea of the gauss strength.
Who knows, you may have a gauss meter, if you do that's even better.
Good Luck,
T

[jessejames]

Check this.
take something steel and go across each 6 screws, and 6 slug poles.
If you don't have the bar evenly charged, maybe the gauss is weak on one end.
I have done that before, and All that is needed is to recharge the Alnico bar with the NEOs.
Make sure you steel is big enough you can get an idea of the gauss strength.
Who knows, you may have a gauss meter, if you do that's even better.
Good Luck,
T

I will try that, however I am about 100% sure it's due to the quality of the wraps on there, both pickups have the same problem, no bass response, I bought both of the kits new from stewmac, the one where I wrapped both bobbins 8000 times I put the alnico 5 in, the one where I wrapped both bobbins 5000 times I put the alnico 2 in. I have tried flipping the magnet and pole orientations and I still get the same sound.
However, they both sound almost exactly the same in the bridge position, so I am really thinking it is a problem with my wrapping, I thought it was tight enough, I had tension on the wire the entire time and I was using a schatten pickup winder, so I am not sure where I went wrong.

[big_teee]

I will try that, however I am about 100% sure it's due to the quality of the wraps on there, both pickups have the same problem, no bass response, I bought both of the kits new from stewmac, the one where I wrapped both bobbins 8000 times I put the alnico 5 in, the one where I wrapped both bobbins 5000 times I put the alnico 2 in. I have tried flipping the magnet and pole orientations and I still get the same sound.
However, they both sound almost exactly the same in the bridge position, so I am really thinking it is a problem with my wrapping, I thought it was tight enough, I had tension on the wire the entire time and I was using a schatten pickup winder, so I am not sure where I went wrong.

So are both pickups wound with 43 Gauge.
Normally Neck pickups are wound with 42 Gauge.
So what Ohms DCR did the neck come out to with the 43 wire?
5000 turns should be around 9600-10000 Ohms DCR.
Is that about what you came out with?
T

[jessejames]

So are both pickups wound with 43 Gauge.
Normally Neck pickups are wound with 42 Gauge.
So what Ohms DCR did the neck come out to with the 43 wire?
5000 turns should be around 9600-10000 Ohms DCR.
Is that about what you came out with?
T

The neck one (the one with 5000 wraps per bobbin) is 42 gauge wire, DCR came out to 7.8k total with it

Bridge had 8000 wraps per bobbin with 43 gauge wire and DCR came out to 16k total

[big_teee]

The neck one (the one with 5000 wraps per bobbin) is 42 gauge wire, DCR came out to 7.8k total with it

Bridge had 8000 wraps per bobbin with 43 gauge wire and DCR came out to 16k total

Maybe someone else has some Ideas for Jesse to try, to get stronger bass.
T

[copperheadroads]

Describe what's wrong with the bass ? dull & muddy or mushy or is that neck pickup flubby ......
also have you noticed any flaring in the bobbin ?

[David Schwab]

Not on the bass response, the one I did for the neck, which only has 7k resistance total is very bright and has low bass response as well. Best I can figure I wrapped them loose or didn't wrap them evenly enough.

Is it thin sounding with no low end? You have them wired out of phase. Swap the leads on one coil.

If you wind both coils in the same direction, then you wire them up start to start, or finish to finish.

If you wire them in opposite directions you wire them up start to finish, or finish to start.

Most commercial humbuckers are wound in the same direction for both coils.

Also in your photos above you are checking them wired in parallel. Connect the two white wires (or a white and black) together. Test the two remaining leads! Do not connect both sets of wires together.