Ceramic 8 Magnets

[nickc35]

Does anyone know of a magnet supplier that has ceramic 8 magnets in rod form in Strat & Tele style pickup sizes? Do they even exist?

[big_teee]

Does anyone know of a magnet supplier that has ceramic 8 magnets in rod form in Strat & Tele style pickup sizes? Do they even exist?

I've never seen any.
to use Ceramic magnets in single coils, you use steel poles and ceramic bars on the bottom.
IMO the reason no Ceramic rods, you would break them when you seat them in the forbon flatwork.
ceramics are very easily broken.
Maybe others have more info.
Here's an old magnet list by Magnetic hold.
No ceramic rods on there.

T

[nickc35]

Well, if they existed, I'd have no problem drilling out the flatwork holes a little bigger and just super-gluing the rods to form the bobbin.


I spent a good couple of hours searching the internet and couldn't find any. I found one site that had ceramic 1 rods but not ceramic 8.

[big_teee]

Well, if they existed, I'd have no problem drilling out the flatwork holes a little bigger and just super-gluing the rods to form the bobbin.


I spent a good couple of hours searching the internet and couldn't find any. I found one site that had ceramic 1 rods but not ceramic 8.

What is the need for the ceramic?
A5 Rods are really bright, and you can get them in the .195 larger size.
Just want to try something different I guess?
T

[nickc35]

What is the need for the ceramic?
A5 Rods are really bright, and you can get them in the .195 larger size.
Just want to try something different I guess?
T

Yeah I'm wanting to experiment with it I guess. It seems lately that there are a lot of young guitarists for which I've been making pickups. They know just enough about pickup construction to think they know it all. (I guess that's typical of most young kids.....I have two teenage sons so I experience it on a weekly basis...LOL) But in general they really have no clue how the tone is affected by the different components of the pickup. They seem to read that hard rock and heavy metal guitarists out there have pickups with ceramic magnets in their guitars. So they want ceramic magnets in their pickups too. Got a request for a single coil vintage LOOKING pickup with ceramic magnets. I told him, that I couldn't do it, magnets are not available in rod form. But I thought I would search to see if they were out there. Now it's mostly just a matter of curiosity for me.

I agree with you too Tee about AlNiCo 5 rods being bright. I just made a couple of humbuckers with rod magnets and they are indeed very bright sounding humbuckers.

[big_teee]

Yeah I'm wanting to experiment with it I guess. It seems lately that there are a lot of young guitarists for which I've been making pickups. They know just enough about pickup construction to think they know it all. (I guess that's typical of most young kids.....I have two teenage sons so I experience it on a weekly basis...LOL) But in general they really have no clue how the tone is affected by the different components of the pickup. They seem to read that hard rock and heavy metal guitarists out there have pickups with ceramic magnets in their guitars. So they want ceramic magnets in their pickups too. Got a request for a single coil vintage LOOKING pickup with ceramic magnets. I told him, that I couldn't do it, magnets are not available in rod form. But I thought I would search to see if they were out there. Now it's mostly just a matter of curiosity for me.

I agree with you too Tee about AlNiCo 5 rods being bright. I just made a couple of humbuckers with rod magnets and they are indeed very bright sounding humbuckers.

I thought most kids played hot Ceramic Humbuckers, like Dimarzio's.
The mini blades have ceramic magnets.
You can make them pretty hot and they fit in the small pick guard hole.

In my strat I have a full sized humbucker with Ceramic 8 Magnet, but the one above is not it.
T

[big_teee]

What did you decide on and come up with?
T

[nickc35]

What did you decide on and come up with?
T

Nothing. I'm still hoping someone will comment and post a link to a magnet maker that sell ceramic 8 rods.

[rjb]

Nothing. I'm still hoping someone will comment and post a link to a magnet maker that sell ceramic 8 rods.

I don't know if these exist either- but could you use square bars magnetized across their length? IIR, Byrdland pickups were P-90 configuration with square (steel) poles. It might be a PITA cutting square holes in the forbon. Never mind, just speculating.

[nickc35]

I don't know if these exist either- but could you use square bars magnetized across their length? IIR, Byrdland pickups were P-90 configuration with square (steel) poles. It might be a PITA cutting square holes in the forbon. Never mind, just speculating.

I did kind of think of that and had the same thought about cutting square holes. I think it would be a PITA.

[Joe Gwinn]

I did kind of think of that and had the same thought about cutting square holes. I think it would be a PITA.

Easy if laser cutting.

Otherwise, requires a square punch. Available, but expensive because of the combination of precision and force required.

I'd guess that ceramic rods magnetized lengthwise will not be common, because it wastes magnet material. And round rods are more expensive to make than rectangular rods.

[nickc35]

Easy if laser cutting.

Otherwise, requires a square punch. Available, but expensive because of the combination of precision and force required.

I'd guess that ceramic rods magnetized lengthwise will not be common, because it wastes magnet material. And round rods are more expensive to make than rectangular rods.

Well, maybe I just have to forget about this idea. Oh well.

[David Schwab]

Nothing. I'm still hoping someone will comment and post a link to a magnet maker that sell ceramic 8 rods.

No one makes ceramic rod magnets.

[LtKojak]

Got a request for a single coil vintage LOOKING pickup with ceramic magnets. I told him, that I couldn't do it, magnets are not available in rod form.

Single coil p'ups with ceramic mags are found in all sub $ 50 instruments.

If this design using slugs glued to a ceramic bar in the bottom sounds bad enough, a design using ceramic rods would make matters worse.

If A5 rods are bad enough to cause strat-itis, imagine using ceramic rods, being about 60% more powerful. It'll take the "nails on a chalkboard" syndrom to a whole new level of bad turning physically painful, most probably causing permanent damage to the player's ear and you being liable to a lawsuit.

A bad idea to start with. Fortunately for you, no mag maker actually makes'em. Consider yourself lucky!

Actually, I'm joking. But I don't think I'd be so far off my statements. Not really!

[copperheadroads]

Single coil p'ups with ceramic mags are found in all sub $ 50 instruments.

If this design using slugs glued to a ceramic bar in the bottom sounds bad enough, a design using ceramic rods would make matters worse.

If A5 rods are bad enough to cause strat-itis, imagine using ceramic rods, being about 60% more powerful. It'll take the "nails on a chalkboard" syndrom to a whole new level of bad turning physically painful, most probably causing permanent damage to the player's ear and you being liable to a lawsuit.

A bad idea to start with. Fortunately for you, no mag maker actually makes'em. Consider yourself lucky!

Actually, I'm joking. But I don't think I'd be so far off my statements. Not really!

I can Imagine how much warmth there will be with absolutely no alloy in the mix .
You could stack some of these
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buy-100-Cera...ht_2958wt_1163