Hidden Tele Neck Pickup?

[big_teee]

I think this guy just wants to be able to say, "Been There, and Done That"!
T

[big_teee]

I think this guy just wants to be able to say, "Been There, and Done That"!
T

I talked to Danny my Tele Picker today.
He wants to do it like the video, even though I advise against it! lol
At least he understands that the volume level Issue will be there.
He just wants to add some other options to a Guitar that Looks Identical to one His Late Brother played for years!
That explains the reason for it a little better!
T

[big_teee]

My Friend Blue Corona, suggested putting some small NEO discs, on the bottom of the Alnico Rod Magnets.
It Couldn't hurt!
T

[Mike Sulzer]

My Friend Blue Corona, suggested putting some small NEO discs, on the bottom of the Alnico Rod Magnets.
It Couldn't hurt!
T

What can neos do for you?

Background:

There are two reasons for the sensitivity of a pickup falling off with distance from the string:
1. The permanent magnetic field is weaker.
2. The coils intercepts relatively less changing flux from the vibrating string because they are farther away.

You can compensate for the first by using a very strong magnet up to the point where string pull starts to be a problem. I do not know how much space you have under there in this Esquire or if you get to make your own, but in principle you can use a big enough magnet to get the field strength up. But be careful! A screw driver might come flying off the bench and through your head.

It is not possible to do so much about #2. You gain gain a bit by replacing the alnico rods with steel. The higher permeability should cause a bit more flux to get through the coil, but do not count on this doing much, and the blade you have suggested just might be the best possible way.

I suppose you will mill out the back of the pick guard with a flat bottomed cutter to get the blade, or maybe the whole pickup, up as high as possible without poking through.

Good luck. It is never fun to have to do a project for a friend when you might not be able to make him completely happy.

[isaac]

Yup... Gotta get the lesser neos, no screwdriver accidents for me. ;-)

[big_teee]

Thanks Mike for all Your Insight.
I think Number 2 is the main killer, when mounting a pickup this low.
My test strat needs a better setup, and has a pretty high action.
So a well setup guitar with a Low Action, should be some better.
And if I trim the under side of the pickguard some.
Mount the pickups as high as possible, even if a slight bow is in the pickguard.
I will try some NEO disks on the bottom of the Rod Magnets.
I tested a rod magnet yesterday with a NEO on the bottom, and the Gauss does come up considerably.
The Extra Gauss would have to help the Big Wound Strings.
T
I think Isaac and I posted at the same time, I was probably typing.

[isaac]

I noticed it said that you were online looking at this thread, along with two guests. ;-) I really need to get a Gauss meter...

[kayakerca]

I noticed it said that you were online looking at this thread, along with two guests. ;-) I really need to get a Gauss meter...

Here is one that I find works well.

Gravitas Technology - Gauss Meter

I'm not associated with this product in any way, I just use it and like it.

[big_teee]

Here is one that I find works well.

Gravitas Technology - Gauss Meter

I'm not associated with this product in any way, I just use it and like it.

Which model, I guess the regular?
Is it easy on batteries?
I Ask a lot WTF??? Don't I.

[kayakerca]

Which model, I guess the regular?
Is it easy on batteries?
I Ask a lot WTF??? Don't I.

WTF??? That's a lot of questions for a such a little toy. The one I have must be an earlier version as the probe is longer on the one shown on the website. That would be a good thing as I doesn't fit overly easily onto magnets in a strung up guitar. Especially magnets on p/u's hidden pickups, the topic of the OP.

I've only had this one a couple of months and the voltage seems to be holding fine on the batteries that shipped with it. I have the regular version figuring that I'm never going to need to measure more that 1,700 mT on a pickup. If I do, I'll resort to my "MONSTER" gauss meter.

[big_teee]

WTF??? That's a lot of questions for a such a little toy. The one I have must be an earlier version as the probe is longer on the one shown on the website. That would be a good thing as I doesn't fit overly easily onto magnets in a strung up guitar. Especially magnets on p/u's hidden pickups, the topic of the OP.

I've only had this one a couple of months and the voltage seems to be holding fine on the batteries that shipped with it. I have the regular version figuring that I'm never going to need to measure more that 1,700 mT on a pickup. If I do, I'll resort to my "MONSTER" gauss meter.

Ooops!
I thought of another ???
Does the Gauss meter have Auto Shutoff.
Most test gear should have this, it saves batteries.
My Fluke DMM does, my cheap Harbor freight meters don't.
I forget and leave the cheap meters on over night down at the the shop, because they don't auto shutdown.
T

[kayakerca]

Ooops!
I thought of another ???
Does the Gauss meter have Auto Shutoff.
Most test gear should have this, it saves batteries.
My Fluke DMM does, my cheap Harbor freight meters don't.
I forget and leave the cheap meters on over night down at the the shop, because they don't auto shutdown.
T

My "more money than good sense" expensive Extech DMM also has auto shutoff. Even beeps to let you know the lights are going out if you don't do something quickly. However all my cheapy's do not.

I've never seen my Gravitas Technology gauss meter auto shutoff, so I'm going to say no.

However, I think the "Super Deluxe Pickup Winder Pro III" $850 model of that gauss meter has auto shutoff to extend the the life of the pair of batteries it uses that I buy at the Dollar Store, 3 for $1. I think it also comes with a power supply! You need a secret code to access the "special" page on the website for the "Super Deluxe Pickup Winder Pro III" model gauss meter though.

[Steve A.]

I've never seen my Gravitas Technology gauss meter auto shutoff, so I'm going to say no.

I wouldn't consider that to be a deal breaker because its not like you would use it off and on all day long like a DMM. I built one from a DIY article which plugs into my DMM. I went with the uncalibrated Hall Effect transistor which was about $20 cheaper than the calibrated one so the total cost was about $20 as I recall. I could calibrate it myself if I had a few magnets with a known gauss value but never bothered...

I think that $80 for a self-contained gauss meter is a great price!

Steve Ahola

[kayakerca]

I think that $80 for a self-contained gauss meter is a great price!

I totally agree.

I really like this unit's "peak" feature that holds the highest reading of a particular measurement test. The reading on both this meter and the other one I have bounce around a fair bit while you are checking the gauss level of a magnet. It's very nice to have it retain the highest gauss reading. My other more expensive gauss meter doesn't have that feature. It's also a lot bigger and clumsier as well.

[big_teee]

Anyone got any small NEOs, and can You stick one on a hot A5 .688", or so rod magnet.
I don't have any small disks yet.
If you do, can you compare the gauss on the opposite end of rod magnet.
Check it with and without the NEOs.
What would be ideal, put the disk on the north end and read the South end of the A5 Rod.
Thanks in advance.
T