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  • First Humbucker ready to pot. . .

    Well, I'm finishing up my first venture into building a humbucker. Construction went well and I learned a lot, but it was a whole different animal from Strat style single coil builds! I'm guessing there are some tricks I'll figure out with time.

    It was a "by request" wind for one of my customers. 4.1kΩ of 42 on the screw and 7.1kΩ of 43 on the slug side. A bit of old mixed in with a bit of bite I guess. The "test pilot" is dropping by later this afternoon to pick it up. Wired it up a 4 conductor lead so he can play with it if he wants.

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    Looking forward to his feedback.
    Take Care,

    Jim. . .
    VA3DEF
    ____________________________________________________
    In the immortal words of Dr. Johnny Fever, “When everyone is out to get you, paranoid is just good thinking.”

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    Let us know how it sounds. Were you able to control TPL? And if so, what was your target?
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    Keep Winding...Keep Playing!!!

    Jim

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jim Darr View Post
      Let us know how it sounds. Were you able to control TPL? And if so, what was your target?
      tpl = 65 (both coils)
      Take Care,

      Jim. . .
      VA3DEF
      ____________________________________________________
      In the immortal words of Dr. Johnny Fever, “When everyone is out to get you, paranoid is just good thinking.”

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kayakerca View Post
        tpl = 65 (both coils)
        Should sound pretty good then. Please let us know how it sounds. Around 65-70 is always a good place to start for a HB. Magnet type & strength?
        Last edited by Jim Darr; 07-03-2014, 10:28 PM.
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        Keep Winding...Keep Playing!!!

        Jim

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jim Darr View Post
          Should sound pretty good then. Please let us know how it sounds. Around 65-70 is always a good place to start for a HB. Magnet type & strength?
          Went with an A5 and bumped the gauss up a bit from the level they came from with from Mojo. Spent a fair bit of time reading BachtoRock's thread in the SD forum on this hybrid

          HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

          It's been picked up so I'll get feedback on the outcome in due course.
          Take Care,

          Jim. . .
          VA3DEF
          ____________________________________________________
          In the immortal words of Dr. Johnny Fever, “When everyone is out to get you, paranoid is just good thinking.”

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          • #6
            You pot the entire pickup assembled like that?
            It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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            • #7
              Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
              You pot the entire pickup assembled like that?
              Yes, I potted the pickup fully assembled. When I finished the potting process, I shot the pickup for a while with my heat gun to drain as much of the "excess" wax back into the potting rig as I could get to flow out without the heat damaging the bobbins.

              Maybe not such a good approach?

              I'm here to learn. . .
              Take Care,

              Jim. . .
              VA3DEF
              ____________________________________________________
              In the immortal words of Dr. Johnny Fever, “When everyone is out to get you, paranoid is just good thinking.”

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kayakerca View Post
                Maybe not such a good approach?
                I don't make humbuckers with covers, but I think others do it that way. It's common to put some wax in the cover to stop it from squealing.

                I just pot the coils after I wind them, and before I assemble the pickup.
                It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


                http://coneyislandguitars.com
                www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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                • #9
                  I put a little bit of wax shavings into the cover, then put the pickup into the cover, solder it together, then wax the whole thing just like you.
                  I like to make sure that cover isn't going to feedback, and that the whole enchilada is sealed. Though I tape so tightly I probably only need the little bit of wax shavings in the cover then a lil hair dryer to melt it.

                  I made a 42/43 humbucker recently for someone and they loved it, a5 mag as well.
                  Though I think I may have made my turn counts a bit closer. I went with ~6000 42 and ~6500 43.
                  Last edited by buddha0709; 07-04-2014, 03:15 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by buddha0709 View Post
                    I put a little bit of wax shavings into the cover, then put the pickup into the cover, solder it together, then wax the whole thing just like you.
                    I like to make sure that cover isn't going to feedback, and that the whole enchilada is sealed. Though I tape so tightly I probably only need the little bit of wax shavings in the cover then a lil hair dryer to melt it.

                    I made a 42/43 humbucker recently for someone and they loved it, a5 mag as well.
                    Though I think I may have made my turn counts a bit closer. I went with ~6000 42 and ~6500 43.
                    For what it's worth, I went with ~ 5,150 (4.1kΩ) of 42 on the screw side and ~ 6,750 (7.1kΩ) of 43 on the slug side.

                    But hey, this truly is a prototype.
                    Last edited by kayakerca; 07-04-2014, 01:17 PM.
                    Take Care,

                    Jim. . .
                    VA3DEF
                    ____________________________________________________
                    In the immortal words of Dr. Johnny Fever, “When everyone is out to get you, paranoid is just good thinking.”

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kayakerca View Post
                      For what it's worth, I went with ~ 5,150 (4.1kΩ) of 42 on the screw side and ~ 6,750 (7.1kΩ) of 43 on the slug side.
                      I have an old Bartolini Hi-A pickup with a mismatch that large. It's bright like a single coil.
                      It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


                      http://coneyislandguitars.com
                      www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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                      • #12
                        Gibson pot their pickups that way after assembly whereas I never pot buckers but did one once as trial run and found it paid to masking tape the cover to stop any run out from pole screw gaps and made it easier to clean up after.

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                        • #13
                          when doing covers I don't bother to get wax from my pot ,Instead i light one of those little tea light candles for a minute or 2 before the cover goes on ,then from the candle drop some wax in the cover & press it & clamp it before the wax solidify s
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                          • #14
                            I usually pot them with the cover on but I have in the past put some wax scrapings under the cover and put the pickup under a desk lamp for 5 minutes. You'd be surprised how hot then can get

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                            • #15
                              I pot the pickups with the covers on.
                              T
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