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  • #31
    Hey, shouldn't this thread be in Tools and Coil Winding Gear?
    It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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    • #32
      Latest list!
      1. Heavy duty Long life motor, if financially feasible a reversible motor, and Also offer an Export 220v Option
      2. Heavy duty sprocket, belt, and pulley system.
      3. Double ended Ball bearing Mandrel shaft, and with no run-out. (Required for winders that do Top Going only!)
      4. Mandrel needs to be 6-9 inches above table height.
      5. Double Height adjustable Stop Bars, with adjustable stop collars.
      6. If Financially feasible, round tooling plates instead of rectangular, and ideally there would be a way to make them replaceable and interchangeable.
      7. Foot switch, and foot switch jack.
      8. heavy Duty Optical Sensor type Speed Control, with speed knob located in a forward location???
      9. Winding speed 0-1500 rpm.
      10. A backlit large display 5 digit counter.
      11. Optional adjustable light
      "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
      Terry

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      • #33
        Bump!
        List has been submitted.
        Remington is in early stage development of the new winder and will keep us posted on its progress.
        T
        "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
        Terry

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        • #34
          I don't know where this list emanated from but I would certainly add a few more options that will probably push the price up but they could be retrofits to add later on.
          A preset counter would be nice especially if it could remember several different presets.
          A tailstock option.
          A wire-handeling kit that includes: whisker disk, a spool cone, an adjustable stand with several arms, an adjustable felt disc tensioner, some fine wire guides etc.

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          • #35
            A simple motor brake circuit added to the PWM to prevent over run would be good.

            I've always thought about setting up a bright light above the bobbin and hooking it up to a read switch or similar so that it only illuminates when the bobbin is vertical, sort of like a car timing light arrangement, thus giving one a clear view of how the wire is being laid on the bobbin.

            regards to all

            Walt
            I know the voices in my head aren't real..... but man, sometimes their ideas are just brilliant.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
              That would be assuming the motor ran in both directions.
              No not really ,One direction as has worked fine for me
              "UP here in the Canada we shoot things we don't understand"

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              • #37
                The standard string guide design with shaft and collars tightened by set screws has bothered me from the beginning. I'm in process of designing a threaded collar setup where the shaft is smooth in the middle but threaded on each end. The collars are threaded on the outside ends and are wide enough to run along the smooth part of the shaft. The collars are also spring tensioned so no need for tightening/loosening, just set it and forget it.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by David King View Post
                  I don't know where this list emanated from but I would certainly add a few more options that will probably push the price up but they could be retrofits to add later on.
                  A preset counter would be nice especially if it could remember several different presets.
                  A tailstock option.
                  A wire-handeling kit that includes: whisker disk, a spool cone, an adjustable stand with several arms, an adjustable felt disc tensioner, some fine wire guides etc.
                  That's a good idea & they do carry some of these items ,Tensioner products are my next obstacle ....but I'm gaining ground with basics
                  "UP here in the Canada we shoot things we don't understand"

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by copperheadroads View Post
                    No not really ,One direction as has worked fine for me
                    So then you flip the bobbin over?

                    That's what I do also, so I see no need to use the left side of the machine.
                    It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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                    • #40
                      They should just make a single bay gorman style winder.
                      Shut up and play

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                      • #41
                        It doesn't appear that it will happen in any form.
                        Because of cost, It will probably not be feasible for them to make a Basic Hand Winder.
                        We will have to wait and see.
                        T
                        "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                        Terry

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                        • #42
                          You know, nearly all the items on the "want" list are already available from Adams Maxwell basic hand winder. I'm a fan of these and own 3 of the older ones. The new ones they make will interface with their auto traverse but I think programming is extremely limited on those. Mine are the 1200-1 and 1200-2. The -2 has a half inch shaft and is meant for heavy duty, the -1 has a 3/8" shaft for lighter duty. Both mine have mechanical counters. They are built like tanks, and have large DC motors with four or five speeds, and work with foot pedals, thought I hate foot pedals and rigged up a pot control next to the winder. They do have a ridiculously expensive pot in a box for stupid money but its huge and bulky thing. I managed to get one for nothing on Ebay as I scouted that stuff for years. Seymour Duncan does all his hand winding on the same ones I have. I also paid for their mounting board and tailstock unit, rather expensive too but a necessity for production winding. You can find these winders from about $600-$1200 dolllars depending on what shape they are in, on Ebay. I bought up damaged ones and orphan motors from one and built a third winder out of those parts for pretty cheap. You will need to have a machined faceplate to mount pickups made for it though. These also have reversible motors too. Anyway, I imagine Remington's price will be way up there, their auto winder is not cheap, and I don't see it making sense to pay $2,000 for a simple motorized hand unit like they will probably charge. There are already Chinese ones on Ebay like that. Personally I'd like to see them make a cheaper version of their mechanical auto winder. The new Adams Maxwell hand winders as stand alone units are pretty expensive, but everything is way overbuilt to last for many many years, I think some of mine are probably from the 70's but no way to date them. The new ones are all electronic with digital counters and they are real expensive.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Possum View Post
                            You know, nearly all the items on the "want" list are already available from Adams Maxwell basic hand winder...

                            ...and I don't see it making sense to pay $2,000 for a simple motorized hand unit like they will probably charge.
                            The Adams Maxwell hand winder is $2,250 for a new one.
                            It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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                            • #44
                              Dang. I was thinking of selling my Sidewinder for $250

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                              • #45
                                Here's an "entry level" idea, one of these might easily be modified to wind pickups:

                                Bobbin Winder - YouTube
                                -Brad

                                ClassicAmplification.com

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