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  • My new (old) winder...

    So, I've been using one of the original Schatten winders since March 2006. At he time it was a convenient way to get a winder, since I didn't have a workshop handy.

    It did the trick, but the motor was very under powered, I could pinch the wire and stop the motor! And it wasn't that fast.

    In 2009 the motor started running very slowly. So I contacted Schatten and they wanted me to send the whole winder to them. I didn't want to do that, so instead I bought a new motor. That worked fine for a while, but then started running slow again. Actually the motors were fine, but the speed control, which appeared to just be a voltage regulator and a potentiometer, was the culprit.

    Since I have pickups to wind, I just chucked my old DeWalt drill to the left axle and used it that way. It was more powerful and faster, so I didn't bother to change it.

    I took a year off from winding, but then wanted to fix the winder up. (I have plans, and parts to build a CNC winder, but needed something in the mean time).

    So I gutted the Schatten, and installed a new motor, speed control, and a larger counter. I will say the Schatten had a lot of hand work involved in putting it together. If they had just used a better motor and a real speed control it would have been a much nicer winder. I suppose the new ones are along those lines.

    The winder was belt driven, which while increasing torque, reduced the speed. I decided to just go with a direct drive setup.

    I bought a Mabuchi 555 12V DC Motor. It runs at about 4,500 RPM. It was $7.95. Figured that was more than enough! I got a Pulse Width Modulation DC motor sped control from EachBuyer.com, for $6.53. And a new counter and reed switch was given to me by a friend... but they cost like $15.

    To power the winder I have a 12v power supply from an external hard drive.

    Here's the original and new motor, and the various parts by the carcass.

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    And here you can see the old vs. new counter and the original guts. The pot and toggle switch were added by me when the original switched pot broke.
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    Last edited by David Schwab; 08-09-2016, 01:56 AM.
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    I got a hub from a robot shop, and fitted it to the original platen.

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    It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. Albert Einstein


    http://coneyislandguitars.com
    www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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    • #3
      Cut a larger hole in the front panel for the new counter, and... it all fits!
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      It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. Albert Einstein


      http://coneyislandguitars.com
      www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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      • #4
        Ta daa... It's really fast with the speed all the way up, but I never need to go past 10:00. Also past that point the reed switch misses turns. I'm going to use a longer magnet to lengthen the pulse. But that's too fast anyway. I'm going to add a motor reverse direction switch, even though I rarely wind in the other direction.

        I need to give it a coat of paint now.
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        It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. Albert Einstein


        http://coneyislandguitars.com
        www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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        • #5
          Cool upgrades! Thanks for sharing the details.

          Steve Ahola
          The Blue Guitar
          www.blueguitar.org
          Some recordings:
          https://soundcloud.com/sssteeve/sets...e-blue-guitar/
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