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  • Orange Terror Bass SMPS 6V issue

    Hello folks,
    So glad to have the forum back. I read on The Amp Garage that this forum is actually on a server in the administrator's home. I was fearful that all these years of invaluable information might be gone.

    Anyway, I have a Terror Bass smps in which the 6V filament supply is dragged down by pretty much any load presented to it. If only the fan, the supply reads about 4V and if presented with the 2 12AX7's, it bogs down to about 2V.
    I have replaced the main filter cap of 3300uf @ 25V as well as the smaller electrolytics at the 6V supply, installed a 5V 7805 series reg ic, as I did not have a 7806 6 volter with similar results.

    It appears that this SMPS has no feedback from the secondary, so it seems it isn't expected to attempt to regulate the secondary with a heavier load. The minisule load the 6V supply presents to the primary shouldn't be an issue anyway.
    I have loaded the HV output just to see if the secondary is capable of supplying current, and the HV does not droop very much and supplies plenty of current.
    The Ultra Fast rectifier diodes all meter & tracer check good. I have new ones on order as at this point, I'm really grabbing at straws.

    Does anyone have any ideas about what could be wrong causing the 6Vdc supply from supplying enough current to drive a relatively low current?
    The schemo I have is just a bit different than the SMPS in this amp, but it is very close.
    One component in the 6V supply that is not in this SMPS is the diode to ground from the #2 pin on the 7806 regulator, which I'm supposing is to offset the 6V reg output by the diode drop of 0.7v to make up for the 6.3v the supply is supposed to be. There are probably other differences.
    BTW, I have also replaced the smaller electrolytic caps around the IR2153 IC as a matter of course as I've had start-up issues with those.
    Thanx, Glen
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    Did you see the 470uF C27 on pg.1 (upper right) ?
    What happens to the HV rail when the 6V is dropping out?
    Originally posted by Enzo
    I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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    • #3
      Originally posted by g1 View Post
      Did you see the 470uF C27 on pg.1 (upper right) ?
      What happens to the HV rail when the 6V is dropping out?
      Hello G1,
      I did not notice that cap! It would seem weird that the fan that plugs directly into the power supply, would rely on a cap that was mounted on another board, but I'll certainly check it out.
      I did observe on the scope that when a load is presented to the supply, the otherwise clean DC at the output of the bridge, becomes a kind of sinewave as it is loaded. At that point, I actually added 1000uf to the 3300uf as an act of desperation, just to see if anything changed. No difference. I don't recall if I subbed in C120 470n. At 64Khz, I guess that could make a difference, too.

      I have disconnected the 6V plug that goes to the amp, and provided a load just by clipping in a 12AX7 directly to the SMPS 6V plug, and get the same results, except the load is 1/2 of 2 12AX7's and the drop of the power supply is 4V instead of the 2V when loaded by both tubes. As mentioned, just connecting the fan reduces the 6V drive to about 4v.

      I'll tack in a 470uf next week & pray .
      Thanx, Glen

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