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  • #16
    Right. I read an article I probably can't find anymore by a Hi-Fi tube amp designer bemoaning the fact that there was no objective standard for his product, so the reviews were always a craps shoot.

    You can see it in this thread. I'm looking for caps you can't hear, and I'm getting recommendations for caps that sound good.

    My point about the Spirit of Music is that even if you could measure its presence, you'd need an uderstanding of it to make the measurement. How could a speaker cable possibly matter? Well, if the interconnect gets over 100mOhms, the damping factor of that nice high performance solid-state amp will be compromised. The dissipation factor of the insulation might also have a measureable effect. And how could the performance of a blocking cap matter with a signal that's 20 kHz max? Well, apparently. a ceramic cap will limit the performace of your circuit to -55dB THD. Again, this effect is measureable.

    The problem with studying this stuff and keeping your ears open is that you find that the world is full of bad audio. It doesn't bother regular folk, who might wear tennis shoes or an occasional python boot, but it does cause one to quest after the ever-elusive good sound. It appears unavoidable, but, in a Quixotic way, it's silly to try to maintain -124dB THD+N, when the signal was recorded with a microphone and you're going to play the signal through speakers.

    In my case, I'm trying to build a wire using PCM encoders and decoders, bunches of Ethernet cable and a switch. I just want all the good and evil distortion to go away.

    Still, it would be nice if I could do it with a dragonburst quilted maple capacitor.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by JoeM View Post
      Forget the film cap in parallel, what you really need are wood encased electrolytics:

      || DHTRob - Projects: Rebuilding a capacitor (1).. ||


      Holy crap! That is a joke, isn't it?

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      • #18
        Yes, it's a joke, but does the builder realise it?

        Damping factor is another axe I have to grind. It's meaningless. Why? The DC resistance of the voice coil is part of the circuit, and this is what dominates the electromechanical damping effect.

        It's completely wrong to say that an amp with a damping factor of 800 controls the speaker 10 times better than another with a damping factor of 80. In actual fact, if we have a voice coil DCR of 7 ohms the damping is increased by 0.09/7 = 1.3%. Not 10 times which would be 1000%.

        As long as the output impedance of your amp (which is what damping factor really expresses), plus the resistance of the speaker cables, all adds up to "small compared to 7 ohms or 3 or whatever" then it won't matter. This is however often NOT the case with tube amps, which can have damping factors of 1 or less.
        "Enzo, I see that you replied parasitic oscillations. Is that a hypothesis? Or is that your amazing metal band I should check out?"

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        • #19
          Originally posted by JoeM View Post
          Forget the film cap in parallel, what you really need are wood encased electrolytics:

          || DHTRob - Projects: Rebuilding a capacitor (1).. ||



          DLMAO!


          Just THINK how good these caps from partsconnexion.com would sound mounted in rice paper and beeswax!:


          DUELUND-133-70961
          10 uf / 200 VAC Cast Silver Foil
          PcX Price: $5,116.00
          MSRP: $6,090.00

          to quote (from a likely double blinded and well controlled experiment):

          "WORLD'S BEST CAPACITOR
          Our apologies for the blatant misuse of the caps lock key, but when you are judged against nearly 50
          other capacitors and come out as the true number 1, the sound of Ode to Joy seems to echo in your
          ears...
          Some years ago the talented and skillful DIY'ing Dutchman Mr. Tony Gee of www.
          humblehomemadehifi.com tested our Virtual Stack Foil Cu capacitor and came to the natural
          conclusion that it was the best sounding capacitor available.
          As time flew by, many challengers vied for the throne but were denied. The VSF remained supreme.
          Realising that something had to be done about this, we send a pair of Duelund Coherent Audio CAST
          capacitors to set the record straight.
          We are proud to announce the following result:
          Sound: The CAST capacitor has all the same characteristics as the VSF but with added top-end clarity
          and together with that, more spatiality. They are (like the VSF) super natural, smooth, clear and open.
          The tonal balance is extremely neutral, especially audible with good recordings of acoustic instruments
          and the human voice, so maily with classical music. Like the VSF the separation of the individual
          instruments is very good and in an orchestra, the string section is a group of individuals rather than just
          a group. Soprano's have clarity without becoming hard to the ear, wind instruments (especailly the
          copper section) have that nice "metal" edge without becoming rough. Where in the past you had to
          choose between a Mundorf Silver/Gold/Oil (very good depth and imaging) or a Duelund VSF (very
          neutral presentation) you can now have the best of both worlds in the form of the Duelund CAST-Cu. I
          did find they needed a couple of weeks use to fully come to bloom, so give a chance to burn-in. My
          current reference!
          So in other words: The king is dead, long live the king!
          For further info: http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/Cap.html


          his "white paper" seems overly "colored": http://wduk.worldomain.net/pdf/Clari...cal_Report.pdf
          Last edited by tedmich; 06-19-2009, 04:07 PM.

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          • #20
            And it doubles as a handy coaster for your iced beverage.
            Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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