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  • Peavey Valverb burnt resistor

    From http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/repair2b.htm:
    Peavey Valverb, 1994 valve / transistor hybrid
    Valve Reverb, 1U case prob. 1994 , no output.
    One obvious problem. Seems to be C-R-C-R-C HT ps with
    the first R overheated to partially white body and O/C.
    Scraped back and remnants measure 4K and 12 K. Comparing
    with other MO 1 W Rs, band positions on bodies, the band heated to black
    was
    probably gold and the first 2 Brown then blue , third is gone totally, .
    so maybe 16K , replaced with 2 x 0.5W 33K, not higher wattage .
    Supplying HT to 3 valves 12AT7 and 12AX7 so common enough.
    The second dropper in
    the ps drop down chain is 22K and looks fine.
    Apparently no separate secondary for heater voltage - seems to use the
    same LV winding used for the transitor power rails.
    Wax coloured hot-melt glue, not wax under caps which looked fine
    as well as all else.
    What I thought was just an intermediary smoothing stage is actually also a
    feed to a 12AT7 via a presumably impedance matching output transformer
    to A2 anode and the other via 47R to the A1.
    This transformer unpowered resistance seems ok about 2K on high imp
    side and 300 on low imp which directly connects to one of the coil
    type transducers on the spring-line. So maybe excess current in this valve
    hopefully rather than a failing impedance matching transformer.
    I've only ever come across piezo transducers on spring-lines before
    this is 56R on the send? transformer connected side and 196R on receive end
    coils.
    I replaced with same wattage R ,disconnected valves and cut trace to
    matching transformer.
    Powered up via variac to full, giving unloaded HT rails of 440V or so
    sustained with no problems.
    On load hopefully the 440V should drop to less than design
    max of 300V.
    Dug out my old Avo 160 valve tester , noticed
    last
    calibrated in 1984 for the REME in the Hebrides. Also powered up via
    variac initially. All those thumbwheel switch contacts and other contacts
    that
    could easily corrode but no problems.
    I'd forgotten about the sequence , balance mains V, heater check, cold
    insulation then hot
    insulation , Test and Gasified check. Also forgotten that nifty 'telephone
    dialler' for set mA/V.
    All 3 valves nicely in the green GOOD sector. For the 12AT7 design
    value is 5.5 mA/V and on test is 5.4 and 5.9 for the other triode.
    Ignoring the drop associated with the other 2 valves and not
    at the moment knowing the actual anode current, if at the test
    value of 10mA then drop over 16K would give a dissipation of
    1.6W. I cannot find in the data book or tester manual whether
    that is 10mA each triode or combined value but I assume it
    is per triode and 20mA if both sections on at test levels so 3.2W.
    Didn't think to check for primary to secondary short on the matching
    transformer. This was the problem , the bobbin is made of soft plastic
    and with time/temeperature the ends had flexed enough to allow
    some of the outer, LV, turns to drop into the HV turns area.
    Removing the transformer and deforming the bulk of the colis
    showed changing bridging resistance. Resistance of LV coil 310 ohm
    and 2100 ohm for HV. Weight excluding bobbin about 40gm.
    Average 'circumference' of LV coil 83mm and HV 58mm.
    Wire 4 thou or 42swg so resistivity per 1000 yards 1910 ohm and
    weight 0.145 lbs. So by weight predicted number of turns 1150
    and by resistance 1790 turns. Warming up the coils with low set
    hot air gun and removing vinyl tape and waxed paper and mounting
    on coil winding machine gave counted-off number of turns 1800.
    Before rewinding adding some vinyl tape either side of the
    core and against the former, so that this coil doesn't slip
    into the HV coil through the gap.
    As HV section left undisturbed then implied by resistance then
    about 17,500 turns for the HV section.
    Representative voltages , no signal, controls at minimum
    HTs 410V,246V,194V
    At fuses 20V,20V ac
    On 22uF electrolytics 0.6,0.6V and 4.6,17.6V dc
    On the 3 valves DC
    142,0,1,0,0,125,0,1,5.9
    136,0,0.8,11.6,11.6,192,13,36,5.6
    232,0,3,17.5,17.6,232,0,3,117
    Also disabled the 240V/110V switch for use in UK - fiddlers
    moving switch setting in USA would do no harm but in UK
    a different matter. Some point in the future stops working
    so lets turn/move every exposed switch and knob.
    I have the same resistor burned that this guy had. Replaced... burned another. Do I need a reverb transformer?

    Danny
    Last edited by tboy; 10-01-2009, 12:20 AM. Reason: added ref link

  • #2
    Originally posted by DMichel123 View Post
    From Repair Briefs 2b , N to Z:


    I have the same resistor burned that this guy had. Replaced... burned another. Do I need a reverb transformer?

    Danny
    maybe, check its DCR, also the filter caps (c118 might be bad)

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    • #3
      Is that the filter cap in the middle? It looks very slightly bulged at the positive end. Do I need to take the transformer out of the circuit to measure the resistance? Where should I be taking measurements? Across the primary? secondary? both?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DMichel123 View Post
        Is that the filter cap in the middle? It looks very slightly bulged at the positive end. Do I need to take the transformer out of the circuit to measure the resistance? Where should I be taking measurements? Across the primary? secondary? both?
        Bulging caps are not good! You are looking for something downstream which caused the resistor to exceed its wattage rating (Ohms law and all). Caps are relatively cheap, I'd replace the next downstream cap and the resistor then see if its AOK. The transformer is hopefully fine...blow another resistor with a new cap and you'll need to check it out...

        others around here will help you cross that bridge IF you come to it.

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