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    I have a pair of Wharfedale Pro LA15 speakers that blew the fuses in the hi pass circuitry. There are no legible markings on the glass bulbs so I don't know what to replace them with. I've contacted support at the company - but oddly when they asked what country I'm from, USA, not a word since. Any subsequent emails go unanswered. Any ideas?

    BTW: There are two bulbs soldered in parallel in the circuit. Not a very easy repair in the field.

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    I'd be tempted to try a 12V, 10 or 20 watt halogen lamp.
    "Enzo, I see that you replied parasitic oscillations. Is that a hypothesis? Or is that your amazing metal band I should check out?"

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    • #3
      Tweeter protectors in PA speakers tend to be 24v 10w festoon bulbs, as supplied for truck and boat interior lights. Like this:

      Festoon Bulb - Holt-r985

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      • #4
        I believe the Wharfedales, like many other manufacturers including JBL, use an SK3 lamp. Specifications (and a great price if you want to order 400 of them) here: OS SK3/CWT/3 #35506(569 3"LDS) | OSRAM SYLVANIA | Incandescent

        If you Google "SK3 Lamp" a few places to purchase in smaller quantities pop up.

        Interestingly the 1156 (old school automotive "back-up-light") and 3156 (newer version of the same) lamps have the same voltage/amperage/wattage specs, so I suppose in a pinch and with some artful mounting (via silicone adhesive or some such) you could solder some wires to the terminals and get by for a while.

        If I remember correctly some Peavey crossovers use what appears to be an 1156 lamp, though I think they grade them at the factory for a certain tolerance & resell them under their own part number. Most lamps are not inherently high-tolerance parts...
        Last edited by Mark Black; 10-25-2010, 12:26 AM. Reason: More info...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Alex R View Post
          Tweeter protectors in PA speakers tend to be 24v 10w festoon bulbs, as supplied for truck and boat interior lights. Like this:

          Festoon Bulb - Holt-r985
          I would have to solder in a holder for a bulb like that, which is good, because the bulb thats in there now just has a wire coming out each end to be soldered into place. The horn driver is nothing I've seen used for a horn - it looks like a regular ceramic magnet used for normal speakers. But can't say I really spend much time dealing with speaker systems.

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          • #6
            Those SK3s look like the right thing. The festoon bulbs are pretty big, like an inch and a half or so, might not fit in.

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            • #7
              You can get those dual fuse-type lamps from Parts-Express. Their part# is 290-659.
              John R. Frondelli
              dBm Pro Audio Services, New York, NY

              "Mediocre is the new 'Good' "

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              • #8
                As a reference, in up to 100/150W cabinets I use cheap, available everywhere 12V 15W car lamps , which means they are slightly over 1A current limiters (similar specs to what was suggested above).
                Just scratch the side and solder them to the board. I always have some stiff 0.80 mm brass wire (the kind hippies use to make "jewelry") for such improvisations, also to hold boards "in the air", ground buss, you name it.
                Juan Manuel Fahey

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                • #9
                  This is all pretty interesting since I had no idea it was so common to protect horn drivers and tweeters using 'light bulbs'. Why isn't a normal standard fuse used for this?

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                  • #10
                    Under overload the light bulb will glow, increase resistance and limit the current, whilst the fuse will just blow. Light bulbs allow the tweeter to keep tweetin'.

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                    • #11
                      That's it, take a beatin' and keep on tweetin'.

                      In some designs you can see the bulb shining through the bass reflex ports. I have seen an eerie pulsating glow come from inside speakers, either in the hands of an over-enthusiastic DJ, or at jam sessions that got a little out of control.
                      "Enzo, I see that you replied parasitic oscillations. Is that a hypothesis? Or is that your amazing metal band I should check out?"

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                      • #12
                        And the bulb offers a more flexible protection, it is a variable resistance.


                        And frankly, fuses usually don;t act fast enough to save tweeters. They mainly offer the speaker owner mental comfort.
                        Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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                        • #13
                          Hi Ricach, forgot to ask, why do you ask for "british" bulbs?
                          Juan Manuel Fahey

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