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  • Troubleshooting a Tektronix 7633 Storage Scope with NO CRT present

    Having restored my R7623A Storage Oscilloscope to operational status, though there's still some issues on the Output Signals PCB tucked away inside the Power Supply Rectifier/Filter assembly, VERY inaccessible, so I capped off the connector that normally plugs onto the Trigger Select PCB assy to yield a Vertical Output Signal on the rear panel...that board was the fault in not having Internal Trigger on that scope. Then today, I found the CRT Graticule Lamp PCB assy not working, where not only were all three 6.3V/200mA Incandescant lamps all burned out, but there isn't any Voltage coming to the PCB now, it's origin at the back end of the Storage PCB assy where a forest of ribbon cables pass thru, so the other end of that 2-wire cable connector is buried and basically inaccessible. So, until I get really adventuresome, there won't be graticule lights on that scope now in service.

    I extracted this 7633 Storage Scope from the right side of my Test Bench equipment stack, and opened it up yesterday. This scope is a good 15 years older than the R7623A that I just restored to service, which also served as an exercise in digging into these beautifully crafted 7000 series modular scopes in Tektronix product line from the early 70's. When Aerospace and Military Industries scrapped the 7000 series for the next generation 11,000 series scopes and later technology in the mid-90's, I bought into the 7000 series scopes. Several 100MHz mainframes, loads of Vertical Amp plug-ins, Time Base Plug-ins, and some other functions plug-ins that made use of their CRT Readout functions, it made it very affordable to have spare parts to keep these extremely well-built scopes running. The R7623A I just restored to service was built in mid-1984, while this 7633 scope I just pulled from service to the Check-out bench was built in early 1970 or late 1969. I see date codes in the late 60's in it.

    This morning, having found the 2A FAST Fuse that feeds the HF Oscillator for the CRT Hi Voltage Circuit was open, I did find all of the Low Voltage Regulator circuits were up and running. So, that's a relief, not having to pull that regulator board out to trouble-shoot it, as I had to do on the R7623A.

    But, the HV CRT Power Supply PCB assy is NOT readily accessible on this instrument.

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    As I have all of the Service Documentation on these scopes and their Vertical and Horizontal Plug-ins, which are interchangeable between instruments, the plan to begin the 'education' on digging into the mainframe of the R7623A proved to be a good idea. Not only did it yield a working replacement scope for the test bench, but I'm now more acclimated to working on these scopes to hopefully solve this CRT Circuit failure. I'm going to have to take a trip to my storage lockers in Gardena, and find my Simpson High Voltage probe (1000:1 10kV) along with the Triplett 630NS VOM that I had forgotten I had purchased at a TRW Radio Amateurs Technical Swap Meet in the late 90's.

    I also have a spare 7633 Scope Mainframe there. I don't recall what it's status is, but, it might become handy if I have serious HV problems on this mainframe. Not sure if that 630NS VOM works (nor where in what box I packed it away into), or if it had the 4100VDC range on it, which comes in handy on the moderately high voltages in the CRT circuits. I have a feeling that if it worked, I would have kept it with me and not tucked away in storage. I never worked on Televisions in my early electronics career. My Electronics indulgence was all Rock n' Roll based gear, being the bass player in my band and the guy who could cobble larger PA rigs from our band and other band's gear at gigs where there were more than one act.

    So, this adventure begins.

    I did find the Low Voltage Regulator supplies ALL WORK and in spec: -50VDC Ref Regulator Ckt, +50VDC, +15VDC, -15VDC, +5VDC and an moderately regulated +130VDC supply. That's the PCB assembly on the rear panel, sitting underneath a vented cover which I've removed. I replaced the 2A fuse F814, after checking to see if there was any short on Q1195, it being the TO3 Power Xstr that drives the Primary of the HF Switching Xfmr T1199 on the A10 High Voltage PCB Assembly. I didn't measure any short there, so tried it with a fresh 2A FAST fuse installed. Fuse didn't blow, found 20VDC on the collector of Q1195, but, no CRT came up either. No idea what caused the 2A fuse to blow, so this will be an education.

    I've also posted this adventure on TekScopes@groups.io​ where I had some good help and assistance in troubleshooting the R7623A to success.
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    Last edited by nevetslab; 10-21-2022, 01:06 AM.
    Logic is an organized way of going wrong with confidence

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    Attached is an excerpt from a free book written by a 7000 series Tek scope enthusiast. The attachment includes a chapter on storage scopes with some nice praise for the​ 7633. I think you will find it interesting.
    Cheers,
    Tom
    Tek Storage Technology LoRez.pdf

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Tom Phillips View Post
      Attached is an excerpt from a free book written by a 7000 series Tek scope enthusiast. The attachment includes a chapter on storage scopes with some nice praise for the​ 7633. I think you will find it interesting.
      Cheers,
      Tom
      [ATTACH]n971269[/ATTACH]
      I downloaded that book and INDEED have found it an invaluable source of documentation and insight into digging into this 7633 scope mainframe. I see where I need to go in the instrument, and the degree of disassembly to access A10 High Voltage PCB is in that small sub-chassis to which the Z-Axis and Readout PCB's are mounted. In LoRez' Tektronix Oscilloscopes' book there a great composite image of the ribbon wired connections of the 7603 Scope, showing the full path from the Power Supply Rect/Filter assy to the LV Regulator assembly, then the ribbons passing from there to the rest of the PCB assemblies (somewhat less complex not having the Storage assembly involved), but that and some of the other photos are paving the way to what my next moves are.

      Beautiful Book he's produced! I still need to post on that.

      This morning, I found after disconnecting P1949 from the Storage PCB (sourced from A10 HV PCB assy), I found that 600V supply was now 645V and holding, while with it connected to the Storage PCB, it dropped to 321VDC and this time didn't continue dropping as I saw it was last week. I still have to get to A10 and replace C1232 and C1250 and see if they're part of the problem as suggested by one of the members of TekScopes@groups.io​ has suggested.

      I checked for any trace on the CRT, now seeing steady voltage at 645VDC, but nothing there still. So, still some faults to be found.

      On with the adventure........

      Logic is an organized way of going wrong with confidence

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      • #4
        Originally posted by nevetslab View Post
        ...Beautiful Book he's produced!...
        Yes. The book is really a labor of love. I especially like that he offers a high resolution version. Zooming in on the photos is very useful.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by nevetslab View Post
          I downloaded that book and INDEED have found it an invaluable source of documentation and insight into digging into this 7633 scope mainframe...
          I just became aware that Giovanni Becattini has today released the third edition of his Tektronix Oscilloscopes book with more than 100 additional pages, included the 7854.

          Same address for free download http://www.k100.biz/parade.htm. Be aware that the high resolution version is a 2.3GB pdf file. Worth it to see the spectacular imagery.
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          ​ ​From the V3 revision notes:
          7603 big drawing added with boards location. Added pages on fan and
          440Hz. Page added on plastics. 7844 rewritten, with more photos. Photos
          added on 7904. 7854 added. Section added on Vintage TEK museum. Added
          pages on Digital Equipment PDP-8. Added pages with the photo-list of
          mainframes. 7A24 added. Pages added about prices. Revised page on 7833
          and added pages with 7834 and 7934. Added pages on ripple
          measurement.Pages added on lamps. Notes added on 7A22 fuses. Added
          pages on the amplifiers comparison among models.​
          Last edited by Tom Phillips; 11-07-2022, 03:33 AM.

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          • #6
            Thanks, TOM. I hadn't seen this, but seeing he's added pages on the 7834, I'll definitely add this additional book to my archives. I haven't resumed the tear-down of my 7633 to get at A10 HV PCB to check/replace the 1uF/250V caps in it and see what else is causing the lack of 600V on the Storage PCB. I still have my back-up 7834 in storage. I forget what I had to do to get that backup mainframe to work as needed. Pretty sure I still have a 7B80 and 7B85 for it, and hopefully a working 7A26. I did have a 7B80 Opt 02 which added the XY/YT function. 7B70's have always had that feature, but the 7B80 eliminated it unless you track down that option.
            Logic is an organized way of going wrong with confidence

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