Crate Palomino V50 212

[erjent]

Hi All,
I've been looking for schematics for a Crate Palomino V50 212. The V50 112 is nothing like this from what I can see.
Thanks,

erjent

[Enzo]

I don't yet find a separate listing. In what way are they different? Other than cabinet and chassis dimensions of course.

It might be useful to know what you are trying to fix on it.

[erjent]

Everything

Enzo,
It appears to be totally different. I don't see seperate PCBs for Pre-amp, power, and power amp sections. One big board with 4 12AX7As and 2 EL34s, An input board, and footswitch,Aux In, Aux Out Additional Cab board. I was wondering about replacing the pre-amp tubes with 12AU7s or 12AT7s. Also I believe Groove Tubes are the original installed tubes. Would Mullard's, Tung-Sol's, JJ's or any other brand be better? I tried to fix the Tank Reverb, but I think a new would be better. I'm thinking Type 9. I attached a photo of the board. ATTACH=CONFIG]15862[/ATTACH]
Thanks,
erjent

[Enzo]

Yeah, that's different, alright.

I don't have it. Judging by the places for two more power tubes, I'd bet there is a V100 using the same board.

I looked at a bunch of other models in the series and found no board match.

Might be useful to have the board numbers from your board.

I can't tell you which tubes you will prefer any more than I can tell you what you should put on your hamburger.

HAve you called Loud Technologies? Have your serial number handy from the amp.

[erjent]

Thank you!

Enzo,
I didn't think they made any 100 watt amps in that series. I took the chassis apart and found out the stock amp had Electro Harmonix EL34s and Solvtek 12AX7WAs. Iwas also wondering about changing the speakers (Celestion Palomino Series 80 watt I believe). Would this be trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear?
Thanks again,
erjent

[Enzo]

Speakers have a large effect on sound, but I can't tell you what yuo'd like.

I don't know what all models they made, but if you have a 50 watter with two EL34s, and your board has places for two more EL34 sockets and their support components, then I have to think there was a 100 watt version too. Otherwise it was a wasted board design.

And I have a schematic for the SMPS from a V100, though nothing else on the model.