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Buick (I mean) Randall Century 170 II LOW output and no drive.

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  • #31
    No. I don’t think either are identical to the century 170 II
    but closest I was able to find, and the notated one at least helped discuss it easier.

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    • #32
      I’ll update once I get the replacements in. Hopefully that will be the fix. The power amp didn’t seem to have full output either when I put signal into the return. So may be more to figure out still. But I hope for the best for now!

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      • #33
        The new JFETS got it up and running again.

        It has a bias adjustment but no spec for what it should be.
        Any suggestions?
        I did measure across the emitter resistors..
        it was already set at its maximum. About 50mv across the .6 resistors. And can go as low as about .5mv
        No crossover distortion regardless of setting.

        <20mv dc offset
        Last edited by Indyryder02; 10-01-2024, 05:04 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Indyryder02 View Post
          I did measure across the emitter resistors..
          it was already set at its maximum. About 50mv across the .6 resistors. And can go as low as about .5mv
          No crossover distortion regardless of setting.
          If there is no crossover, I would set for minimum. Measure across the 0.27 ohm emitter resistors of the final outputs. 5mV across 0.27 is around 20mA which is easily sufficient. 50mV across 0.27 would be closer to 200mA idle current, which is way too high.

          Originally posted by Enzo
          I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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          • #35
            Originally posted by g1 View Post
            If there is no crossover, I would set for minimum. Measure across the 0.27 ohm emitter resistors of the final outputs. 5mV across 0.27 is around 20mA which is easily sufficient. 50mV across 0.27 would be closer to 200mA idle current, which is way too high.
            Only has the .6 final emitter resistors (not the c1000 model) but I see what you’re saying. That’s the info I needed. Thank you! Seems it must be designed to prevent any setting that would harm it, thankfully. Since it was at max when I got it!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Indyryder02 View Post
              No. I don’t think either are identical to the century 170 II
              but closest I was able to find, and the notated one at least helped discuss it easier.
              Hello, I was the one who made the notes on the RG 170 circuit, the confusion between Jfets Q3 and Q4 and that I changed the design according to the RG170 I board, the RG 170II is a little different, but the fact is that in both modes both the RG 170I and 170II designs work to mute the "Green" Clean channel and I'll tell you one more thing this RG170I amplifier was poorly designed, the bleeding problem from the other Topic was only solved by adding an extra gain stage after the "Gain voycing" of the amplifier, any questions I'm here to help.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Indyryder02 View Post
                Only has the .6 final emitter resistors (not the c1000 model) but I see what you’re saying. That’s the info I needed. Thank you! Seems it must be designed to prevent any setting that would harm it, thankfully. Since it was at max when I got it!

                Please, if you can, send me a photo below the plate so I can see and readjust the layout for the Rg 170II, thank you

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Marcio_Luthier_Brasil View Post


                  Please, if you can, send me a photo below the plate so I can see and readjust the layout for the Rg 170II, thank you
                  Don’t have the amp anymore. It’s back rocking on the road again.

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