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    Changed out the filter cap on Hilgen Troubadour , it had (2) 5watt 2.2k resistors mounted across it , they measure close to a max 10% tolerance 2437 & 2315 ohms . I have only been able to find 5w 2k and 2.7k block resistors , can order 2.2k blocks from china , maybe months before they arrive . What to do ?? trust the originals and call it good ??
    If you don't know where your going any road'll take you there : George Harrison

  • #2
    Just checked Digikey and Mouser, they have lots of options for 2.2K. Might have 2.4K as well if you'd prefer.

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    • #3
      The 2.2K resistors are dropping resistors for the preamp.

      I would not hesitate to leave them alone.

      hilgen_model_t-1506_troubadour_-_rev_a.pdf

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      • #4
        +1. Unless they're faulty leave them alone. Being close to tolerance isn't an issue.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bloomfield View Post
          Just checked Digikey and Mouser, they have lots of options for 2.2K. Might have 2.4K as well if you'd prefer.
          I did find them at Digikey , filter zero'd out when I checked before thanks.
          If you don't know where your going any road'll take you there : George Harrison

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jazz P Bass View Post
            The 2.2K resistors are dropping resistors for the preamp.

            I would not hesitate to leave them alone.

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            Thank You once again Jazz P Bass , I did find them at Digikey , but I will go with the originals
            If you don't know where your going any road'll take you there : George Harrison

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            • #7
              Originally posted by shortcircuit View Post
              Thank You once again Jazz P Bass , I did find them at Digikey , but I will go with the originals
              would changing the 2.2k carbon resistors with 2.2k wire wound change the tone of the amp ??
              If you don't know where your going any road'll take you there : George Harrison

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              • #8
                Short answer: no.
                Longer answer: the primary characteristic difference between CC and wirewound resistors is that CC have a higher intrinsic noise (hiss) that can be audible in certain parts of the circuit. Power supply? Not significant. A secondary characteristic is that CC resistors will drift with voltage, heat, and time. Yours have already drifted, and are a few % higher than nominal. Replacing them with a resistor of the 'correct' 2.2k value will have a bigger change on the sound of the amp than changing the resistor composition. CAVEAT: random swapping in search of some kind of tonal 'grail' is rarely fruitful. I see no reason to remove what you have for those resistors. They should be fine for another 50 years.
                If it still won't get loud enough, it's probably broken. - Steve Conner
                If the thing works, stop fixing it. - Enzo
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by eschertron View Post
                  Short answer: no.
                  Longer answer: the primary characteristic difference between CC and wirewound resistors is that CC have a higher intrinsic noise (hiss) that can be audible in certain parts of the circuit. Power supply? Not significant. A secondary characteristic is that CC resistors will drift with voltage, heat, and time. Yours have already drifted, and are a few % higher than nominal. Replacing them with a resistor of the 'correct' 2.2k value will have a bigger change on the sound of the amp than changing the resistor composition. CAVEAT: random swapping in search of some kind of tonal 'grail' is rarely fruitful. I see no reason to remove what you have for those resistors. They should be fine for another 50 years.
                  Thanks for the reply , much appreciated
                  If you don't know where your going any road'll take you there : George Harrison

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