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  • Vox AC30HW60 with excessive hum

    Hi People
    Thanks for looking
    This one has got me scratching my head there is something i'm overlooking here

    The reported fault was turn on the sounds dropped in and out again and smell of burning

    Chassis check can see one grid stopper 100R burnt up
    Replaced for same and \ fitted new set of power tubes.
    Replaced fuse and turned on... excessive hum , Tested all channels working ok
    I removed the PI tube ( V7) ? No hum, If you remove all pre amp tubes apart from V7 and V5 Hum is present
    Remove V5 hum is still present but greatly reduced
    Checked with customer and prior to the fault , was working well and had zero background hum
    Stolec_AC30-TB (1).pdfac30hw60.mp3
    Replaced GZ34 and fitted all new pre amp tubes
    Checked all grid stoppers and 1.5k all ok
    Checked with another set of power tubes ( new to be sure)
    All Filter are F/T caps look ok and cant see any ripple on them
    I have piggybacked new caps on the filter caps still nothing
    If i turn the bass fully off and treble up full i can reduce it
    V5 pin 1= 273v
    pin 6 & 2 =172v
    pin 3 =173v
    Pin 8 = 1.18v
    cathode bias =10.4v around 80% Plate d
    EL84 grid =321v
    El84 anodes =323v
    PI tube pin 1 & 6 = 232v
    pi tube R71 = 52v
    Amp was purchased new and never been repaired til now about 5 years old

    The schematic is not the 100% version , but all seems to be the same

    I think the fault is coming from the V5 circuit ??? or am i missing something
    i was hoping to put up some scope pictures but mobile won't take a decent one
    Attached Files
    Last edited by Arbutt; 12-07-2022, 01:39 PM.

  • #2
    Does the amp have a heater balance pot (humdinger)?
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    • #3
      50HZ or 100HZ? (60 & 120 in some countries).
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      If you can't fix it, I probably can.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
        Does the amp have a heater balance pot (humdinger)?
        Hi Helmholtz. It does not . Looks like it has an artificial CT with 2 X 220r resistors..

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
          Does the amp have a heater balance pot (humdinger)?
          Morning i decided this morning to disconnect the resistor network for heaters and fit a humdinger temporary
          no change
          The picture below are from 56k on V5 and from the output speaker jack

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          • #6
            Ok, so we have a 50Hz fundamental. Doesn't look like a ripple/filter cap issue.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
              Ok, so we have a 50Hz fundamental. Doesn't look like a power supply issue.
              Thanks. I just can fathom it. i know valve amps have hum, but this is far to excessive ,
              I'm running out of brain thoughts for this one

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